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Re: NovaChat: Multi-Network Chat

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Those were all free too if I remember correctly?

Yes they were, except I think Trillian had a pro version.

I remember those! It was free forever then later on that Trillian Pro came around. Adium was my favorite during that time.

Re: NovaChat: Multi-Network Chat

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> NovaChat is a paid app with a monthly fee of $10 (price may go up after beta period) Wow $10/mo?! Pidgin was the multi-network chat tool, and was free! I'd understand $10 one-time, but not per month. And the price may go up? No thanks

As an original contributor to pidgin when it was marko’s gaim, I am flabbergasted at the state of open source chat today. I wonder if libpurple just needs to be updated to support cloud services/various chat apis. I’d be willing to bootstrap that project...

There are already libpurple plugins for various chat systems, for example Discord:

https://github.com/EionRobb/purple-discord/

Re: NovaChat: Multi-Network Chat

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As an original contributor to pidgin when it was marko’s gaim, I am flabbergasted at the state of open source chat today. I wonder if libpurple just needs to be updated to support cloud services/various chat apis. I’d be willing to bootstrap that project...

Pidgin/libpurple worked a lot better when most chat services were variants of XMPP. Now everything's proprietary and hostile to unofficial clients. Most Matrix bridges have to do stuff like scrape the webapps to work.

A lot of them are probably proprietary variants of XMPP or SIP. ISTR reading Facebook at least is like that.

Re: NovaChat: Multi-Network Chat

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Pidgin/libpurple worked a lot better when most chat services were variants of XMPP. Now everything's proprietary and hostile to unofficial clients. Most Matrix bridges have to do stuff like scrape the webapps to work.

A lot of them are probably proprietary variants of XMPP or SIP. ISTR reading Facebook at least is like that.

IIUC Facebook Messenger is their own bespoke protocol on top of MQTT now. It seems even the web client speaks MQTT these days.

Re: NovaChat: Multi-Network Chat

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This is of interest to me, but the Electron thing worries me. I already commit a lot of memory to Electron clients (VSCode, Discord, Slack, etc.). Adding another one, even if it replaces Slack, makes me a little concerned for memory economy.

Sounds like once the discord support is available, it would actually reduce the number of electron apps you're running.

Re: NovaChat: Multi-Network Chat

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I've built a not for profit multi-platform capable matrix client that is now in open alpha called Syphon ( https://github.com/syphon-org/syphon ). This is largely to address the issue of proprietary chat clients. Private, secure communication (with a decent brand and ui) should be accessible to everyone by now. Signal does a great job of filling the void but if they fail or are blocked by a country or community, the…

While I like your app and definitely consider giving it a try now that it seems to support e2ee, you shouldn't create a new account to post the same message after your other one got voted down so hard. Please consider writing a "show HN" post instead.

If by "the other one" you mean https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23694021, it was killed by software, not downvoted.

Re: NovaChat: Multi-Network Chat

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Ehhhh maybe. I don't think the general population will be dropping Facebook/Twitter/Reddit anytime soon.

Facebook is actually dying. Ask people around you that younger than 20 years (+- a few). No one is using facebook at that age. Facebook is for boomer.

Sure but they're using other appps with equally worrying privacy issues

Re: NovaChat: Multi-Network Chat

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An alternative with a strong existing network effect. I dont really use FB at all anymore, but Im not on Mastodon et al because no one else I know is. It's a bad catch 22.

BeWelcome.org is trying hard to get that "critical mass". I won't explain the whole history of CouchSurfing demanding membership fees and locking people out of accounts, because I don't want to complain. The focus within the community is about volunteering and building a new future together. It's primarily about letting people stay in each others' houses for free, yet there's more to the community that just hosting a…

It says its open source, but the only link to this in the faq says you should "get access" to the source via some developers circle(?) which goes to an apache "it works" page

Re: NovaChat: Multi-Network Chat

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Just wanted to ask: I signed up for the beta but did I commit to anything? I don't mind trying it out, but do we have to pay the $10 from the start and is there a minimum term?

No commitment at all. You can try it out first.

Thanks!

One other Q: What about E2E security? Will you implement this for the comms between the bridges and the browsers? As I understand it I would run the bridges myself so it would make sense to have everything encrypted.

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