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Re: NovaChat: Multi-Network Chat

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Post by o-__-o »

lowmemcpu wrote: post #33

> NovaChat is a paid app with a monthly fee of $10 (price may go up after beta period) Wow $10/mo?! Pidgin was the multi-network chat tool, and was free! I'd understand $10 one-time, but not per month. And the price may go up? No thanks

As an original contributor to pidgin when it was marko’s gaim, I am flabbergasted at the state of open source chat today.

I wonder if libpurple just needs to be updated to support cloud services/various chat apis. I’d be willing to bootstrap that project...

Re: NovaChat: Multi-Network Chat

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Post by erohead »

o-__-o wrote: post #61
lowmemcpu wrote: post #33

> NovaChat is a paid app with a monthly fee of $10 (price may go up after beta period) Wow $10/mo?! Pidgin was the multi-network chat tool, and was free! I'd understand $10 one-time, but not per month. And the price may go up? No thanks

As an original contributor to pidgin when it was marko’s gaim, I am flabbergasted at the state of open source chat today. I wonder if libpurple just needs to be updated to support cloud services/various chat apis. I’d be willing to bootstrap that project...

I would love to learn more about pidgin and ecosystem of bridges. Let me know if you're interested in chatting! I funded development of 7 open-source Matrix bridges so far. I would love to contribute more to the community of those trying to liberate the chat world.

Re: NovaChat: Multi-Network Chat

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Post by packetlost »

danicgross wrote: post #55

Between this, Mastodon, Matrix, and others, I feel like we're witnessing the end of the centralized web era (everyone uses one network), and the return to a distributed Internet (lots of different services) with aggregators (Adium or NovaChat). The recent Twitch/Reddit/Twitter bans should only magnify this effect. Congrats Eric! I'm very excited to use this.

Ehhhh maybe. I don't think the general population will be dropping Facebook/Twitter/Reddit anytime soon.

Re: NovaChat: Multi-Network Chat

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Post by c-smile »

While we are on this page...

If someone need my help in creating native Chat UI please let me know, I can help to do it with Sciter: https://terrainformatica.com/2019/09/23/sciter-chat/

It could be purely native application or something along the lines of Sciter Quark ( https://quark.sciter.com )

Re: NovaChat: Multi-Network Chat

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Post by el_dev_hell »

danicgross wrote: post #55

Between this, Mastodon, Matrix, and others, I feel like we're witnessing the end of the centralized web era (everyone uses one network), and the return to a distributed Internet (lots of different services) with aggregators (Adium or NovaChat). The recent Twitch/Reddit/Twitter bans should only magnify this effect. Congrats Eric! I'm very excited to use this.

I hope that's the case, but I have trouble seeing a future where centralized applications (mostly Facebook, Instagram, and iMessage) will be thrown aside by the masses.

People still use Facebook after multiple proven privacy scandals. If that doesn't push people off the platform, what will?

Re: NovaChat: Multi-Network Chat

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Post by the_duke »

o-__-o wrote: post #61
lowmemcpu wrote: post #33

> NovaChat is a paid app with a monthly fee of $10 (price may go up after beta period) Wow $10/mo?! Pidgin was the multi-network chat tool, and was free! I'd understand $10 one-time, but not per month. And the price may go up? No thanks

As an original contributor to pidgin when it was marko’s gaim, I am flabbergasted at the state of open source chat today. I wonder if libpurple just needs to be updated to support cloud services/various chat apis. I’d be willing to bootstrap that project...

> I wonder if libpurple just needs to be updated

All of the popular chat services (FB Messenger, What's App, Snapchat, Signal, etc) are very keen on remaining closed systems.

They don't have an API. The bridges for these are basically dirty hacks that patch Electron apps with some hooks, use web versions (What's App) or even Android apps directly.

There is no "just" here.

Re: NovaChat: Multi-Network Chat

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Post by lozaning »

el_dev_hell wrote: post #67
danicgross wrote: post #55

Between this, Mastodon, Matrix, and others, I feel like we're witnessing the end of the centralized web era (everyone uses one network), and the return to a distributed Internet (lots of different services) with aggregators (Adium or NovaChat). The recent Twitch/Reddit/Twitter bans should only magnify this effect. Congrats Eric! I'm very excited to use this.

I hope that's the case, but I have trouble seeing a future where centralized applications (mostly Facebook, Instagram, and iMessage) will be thrown aside by the masses. People still use Facebook after multiple proven privacy scandals. If that doesn't push people off the platform, what will?

An alternative with a strong existing network effect. I dont really use FB at all anymore, but Im not on Mastodon et al because no one else I know is.

It's a bad catch 22.

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