EFF and heavyweight legal team will defend Internet Archive against publishers

Post by brnt » Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 6:29 PM UTC

_sbrk wrote: post #59

hyko wrote: post #57

How do we back up the Internet Archive? If they lose this case then it will be like losing The Great Library of Alexandria. This is our culture. This is our heritage! Edited to add: when I say “back up”, I mean preserve the data and the archival mission (minus the legal quagmires). The technical challenges can be solved, and we should do this before it’s too late. It seems there was a previous effort, but it has lost…

This is abuse of copyright. IA did bad, and should not be rewarded for this behavior.

Post by ogennadi » Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 6:35 PM UTC

mellosouls wrote: post #14

For anybody interested in the IA's claimed ethical and legal justifications, they summarise and link to them at the following page: http://blog.archive.org/2020/03/30/internet-archive-responds...

Post by __s » Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 6:40 PM UTC

aka1234 wrote: post #43

gpm wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, the criminal in the above is absolutely on the wrong side of the law. That's the assumption after all. Lawyers are on the wrong side of the law when they break it themselves (see, e.g., Avenatti), but not when they represent people on the wrong side of the law. The latter is necessary for the common law court system to work at all.

> "No, the criminal in the above is absolutely on the wrong side of the law. That's the assumption after all." In America at least, the defendant is presumed innocent until proven guilty. So the assumption should be that the defendant is on the right side of the law. It's the prosecutor or complainant's job to prove the defendant is in fact on the wrong side of the law. To call a defendant 'the criminal' (and saying…

Post by chadash » Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 6:41 PM UTC

ogennadi wrote: post #63

mellosouls wrote: post #14

For anybody interested in the IA's claimed ethical and legal justifications, they summarise and link to them at the following page: http://blog.archive.org/2020/03/30/internet-archive-responds...

> Yes, we’ve had authors opt out. We anticipated that would happen as well; in fact, we launched with clear instructions on how to opt out because we understand that authors and creators have been impacted by the same global pandemic that has shuttered libraries and left students without access to print books. Our takedowns are completed quickly and the submitter is notified via email.

Post by mantap » Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 6:42 PM UTC

hyko wrote: post #57

How do we back up the Internet Archive? If they lose this case then it will be like losing The Great Library of Alexandria. This is our culture. This is our heritage! Edited to add: when I say “back up”, I mean preserve the data and the archival mission (minus the legal quagmires). The technical challenges can be solved, and we should do this before it’s too late. It seems there was a previous effort, but it has lost…