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YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer for hate speech

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Re: YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer for hate speech

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That is an increasingly cynical view to expose given that the people who decide to do that just get blacklisted by the financial elite. https://twitter.com/TheEbonyMaw/status/1277120076186112000 , https://reclaimthenet.org/gab-andrew-torba-visa-blacklisted-...

Thus making the case why alternative financial systems outside their power are essential.

Absolutely. The Rothschild conspiracy is very real.

Re: YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer for hate speech

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They did not ban racist subreddits like /r/blackpeopletwitter and /r/fragilewhiteredditor. If you don't know, to post on /r/blackpeopletwitter you have to send a photo of your skin color to the moderators. They are literally racially segregating users.

“While the rule on hate protects such groups, it does not protect all groups or all forms of identity. For example, the rule does not protect groups of people who are in the majority or who promote such attacks of hate.” https://www.reddithelp.com/en/categories/rules-reporting/acc...

> “While the rule on hate protects such groups, it does not protect all groups or all forms of identity. For example, the rule does not protect groups of people who are in the majority or who promote such attacks of hate.”

The majority where? I can't find any specifics on what the majority qualifier is applied to (ex: the community in which the speech occurs, the geographic community of the user, etc).

Re: YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer for hate speech

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I used to listen to Stefan Molyneux about 10 years ago because he had some interesting views on free market economics. Now I look him up on Wikipedia and find out he's turned into a white nationalist. What the hell happened?

Molyneux, precisely, does not advocate specifically for a white ethnostate where Spencer does. However, Molyneux doesn't oppose one on principle, which for most is too close for comfort so he gets branded as one. I understand for many that is evidence of guilt but logically speaking that's not the same thing.

> Molyneux, precisely, does not advocate specifically for a white ethnostate where Spencer does.

"The devolution of the US from an Enlightenment Republic to a semi-banana republic is also silenced, since that has a lot to do with racial IQ demographics esp permanent low Hispanic IQ"

What is the implied solution to this alleged problem?

Re: YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer for hate speech

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It's a purge. It won't stop with these three. The censorship will continue to get worse and be disproportionately applied to those on the right until all is left with the world. Conservatism has a place in society. I'm not endorsing any of these guys viewpoints nor am I associating them with conservatism in general, because it's a broad group of over 100 million people in the U.S. with a diverse range of opinions tha…

A purge of white supremacists sounds great to me.

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Re: YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer for hate speech

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The comment tree was about "white nationalism", which is definitely commonly understood to mean "wants a white ethnostate".

Fair, but is the distinction actually important in this case? It seems to me to be more of a means of obfuscating/derailing the discussion of Molyneux's views.

It is important, because it implies Molyneux would take steps to build such a state, when he wouldn't on principle. Molyneux is an anarcho-capitalist: he desires there to be no state at all.

Re: YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer for hate speech

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Why is everyone making surprised pickachu face about white nationalism as our culture encourages black nationalism and every other kind of racial tribalism? The problem isn't the color, the problem is the nationalism.

Hasn't black nationalism been essentially dead since the Black Panther party collapsed? You talk about as if it were as immediately dangerous as white nationalism, but I'm not sure it is.

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Re: YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer for hate speech

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Twitch and Reddit enacted bans simultaneously: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/29/reddit-bans-pro-tru... https://www.engadget.com/twitch-suspends-donald-trump-accoun... Seems odd for multiple independent companies to act in concert like this.

> Seems odd for multiple independent companies to act in concert like this Yes and no, this is less collusion and more to avoid platform hopping basically if one platform bans them they’ll flock to another even if the medium isn’t identical or the platform is not optimal for their use case any platform would do in times like these. I’m pretty sure at this point when the behavior pattern is known the platforms inform…

Moloenux has been on YouTube for over a decade. He wasn't evading any bans.

Re: YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer for hate speech

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"Apparently they're going to ban a large number of subs on Monday and frame it as an anti-racism initiative" Frame it? It is an anti-racism initiative. It may have side effects as well but that is the main driver.

They did not ban racist subreddits like /r/blackpeopletwitter and /r/fragilewhiteredditor. If you don't know, to post on /r/blackpeopletwitter you have to send a photo of your skin color to the moderators. They are literally racially segregating users.

Damn, I never actually heard this being spoken about on reddit.

It's interesting, I'm not from the US and I find it curious that these situations arise. I can understand and empathise with (as a 'person of colour' as it's called over there) the arguments of both sides, but deep down I find this kind of 'positive segregation' morally wrong.

Re: YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer for hate speech

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Sometimes I wonder if there are better solutions rather than bans. Banning sounds like sweeping the dirt under the rug. I am afraid haters might concentrate in underground social networks, away from the spotlights, creating a "us and them" situation.

Don't worry, the payment processors and corporate banks with federal charters simply will refuse to deal with them. They won't be able to buy services or connectivity. And then when they try to set up their own payment networks they'll be charged with trumped up KYC law infractions and put in prison.

Re: YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer for hate speech

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I used to listen to Stefan Molyneux about 10 years ago because he had some interesting views on free market economics. Now I look him up on Wikipedia and find out he's turned into a white nationalist. What the hell happened?

Why is everyone making surprised pickachu face about white nationalism as our culture encourages black nationalism and every other kind of racial tribalism? The problem isn't the color, the problem is the nationalism.

It's curious that people that seem to be racists aren't happy when everyone tries to get along and sing campfire songs about being one people and inclusive. They also aren't happy when people stand up for themselves and reject their worldview.
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