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Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by scruple »

throwaway0xb wrote: post #410
samfriedman wrote: post #159

The title should be updated, as T_D was just one of a large number of subs banned today; even then, it has been largely irrelevant since the admins' earlier decision to quarantine it and impose other restrictions. Other larger banned subs include /r/GenderCritical (anti-Trans) and /r/ConsumeProduct which was ostensibly for criticism of consumerism and product promotion, but hid a large strain of antisemitism below th…

/r/cumtown was Chapo adjacent and also got the axe. Part of the dirtbag left or whatever they go by now.

Yet r/stupidpol has (so far) managed to survive, which was the original Chapo Trap House podcast subreddit.

edit/ There are quite a few actually disgusting subs that have managed to evade this ban, in addition to a few which I kind of expected to see banned that survived. There are also quite a few which are basically worse versions of a subreddit that was in the banwave which leads me to conclude that the Reddit admins simply don't know that they exist.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by skinnymuch »

mantas wrote: post #280
andybak wrote: post #238

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> from any subreddit that toes their party line There's plenty of right-leaning subreddits. What set The_Donald apart was how close it sailed to being outright cultishly crazy.

How many left-leaning subreddits were banned? There're several toxic commie subs with a lot of hatred thrown around, but nobody seems to care. r/politics was default for ages and it wasn't exactly a welcoming place.

Chapo Traphouse was banned. Do the numbers matter exactly? This one huge ban negates the point you were presumably trying to make.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by igetspam »

throwaway829 wrote: post #539
caconym_ wrote: post #494

Earlier quoted context omitted.

T_D was chock full of calls for violence since its early days. In particular, I remember looking one day and seeing its whole front page covered in posts glorifying Pinochet for the way he treated his domestic enemies. The mods quite clearly had no good faith interest in keeping this kind of content out, only stepping in (except to ban users going against the narrative) when they were threatened from above. I am myst…

Similar to how leftists promoted the "punch a nazi in the face" meme'. They will of course be the ones defining who is a "nazi".

Nazi is pretty well defined, as are incel, redpill, boogaloo bois, etc. If you are part of one of those clubs and decide to exercise your right to free speech (which is your right), suffering the consequences should be expected. Consequences may include social sanctions and violent reactions. People react to speech. That's natural.

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Post by irvwash »

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #356
williamgrant wrote: post #314

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> It is a common sentiment there that the only good Democrat is a dead one. A similar sentiment is commonly expressed by far left individuals and groups on Twitter, Facebook and other mediums. "the only good Tory is a dead Tory" has been the popular refrain for decades. It's depressing these sentiments are carelessly amplified and approved by so many. Edit: Apparently this has caused a stir. I encourage others to not…

They're not. Not only is "The only good Tory is a dead Tory" not a popular refrain at all [1], but a quick search for "The only good Republican is a dead Republican" returns a lot of hits for the "[...] dead Democrat" quote and almost none for the search phrase. These attempts at false equivalence reliably appear in these situations, and there's reliably nothing to back them up. The difference is the right is trying…

> a quick search for "The only good Republican is a dead Republican" returns a lot of hits for the "[...] dead Democrat" quote and almost none for the search phrase

This is muddled by one particular incident with a video Trump posted. Searching the "democrats" phrase in quotes gives 160,000 results. Searching it with -trump -president gives only 4,000 results, and even then some (maybe most) of those results still seem to be about the incident (but spelling his name as "Dump" for example).

In my experience edgy calls for violence are indeed more common from the right than from the left, but this is a bad way to try to measure it.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by andybak »

seph-reed wrote: post #361
andybak wrote: post #277

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"closed loop hypocrisy" sounds intriguing and is exactly the kind of counter-intuitive idea I'm drawn to. I'm not sure I entirely follow your explanation and Google is not bringing up much. Do you have a link to a longer explanation of some kind?

I do not. It's a theory a friend and I philosophized about for a while in college, but nothing published. If you'd like to check our work though, play with proving/disproving the following: 1. All negativity/opposition is inherently hypocritical 2. Negativity/opposition is necessary 3. Your opposition will always focus more on your negative differences than your negative similarities 4. Focusing on similarities is th…

On a phone so can't type at length but I actually agree with you on some of this.

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Post by monksy »

hhhhhhhjjjjjjju wrote: post #487
ve55 wrote: post #7

Worth taking note that in today's climate, you really cannot win when you are in a position to moderate important things that a lot of people use. There is constantly tremendous pressure on you to perform opposing actions, and even making no decision at all will cause you significant mental stress and harassment, regardles of what the issue is. You have to pick who you want to cave to, and to what extent, and no matt…

I run a video game clan with a fairly active discord channel -- the stance I've taken is: there are no rules beyond: 1. nothing illegal (includes cheating at games) 2. no racism / homophobia / transphobia 3. no harassing other members 4. everyone has different beliefs and come from different parts of the world -- if you are offended, ask the offender to stop, otherwise see a mod so far there are around 50 people in t…

> includes cheating at games

That's not illegal. It's just not permissible on the services that run the games. Also, it used to be a thing in video gaming. (Game genie) For some reason, we've given up to video game companies who try to dictate how people should enjoy a product that they purchase.

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Post by omgwtfbyobbq »

Natsu wrote: post #385
bitexploder wrote: post #234

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Well, if you had any doubt about the character of TD and what it has become at its new home, just cruise around it. It’s full of conspiracy theories, misogyny, racism, and outright calls to violence. It is a common sentiment there that the only good Democrat is a dead one. These “edgy” takes receive many upvotes.

Eh, I've seen almost all of those things on the front page of Reddit, too. Just recently, on the front page of reddit, I've seen a headline saying to cut off a cop's dick because he tasered someone (I believe it said 'take his badge and his manhood'), ACAB types have been threatening to kill cops, Reddit has doxxed the wrong people for major crimes, etc. It's particularly ironic because the original justification for…

In this case I think manhood means his gun, not his junk, but maybe I'm just getting old.
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