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Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by canofbars »

mcintyre1994 wrote: post #465
TulliusCicero wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I moderate a couple of subreddits and agree moderation is a disaster. For popular subs, moderators are basically swamped in a never-ending avalanche of shit. Even if you want to be a good mod, doing so for the long haul is an insane time commitment. The fact that being banned from one sub doesn't usually get you banned from another sub is totally understandable, but combined with how easy it is to make a new account,…

Has anyone thought about building something like Twitter blacklists for Reddit so a group of mutually trusting subreddits can share their list of who they ban (for reasons not unique to their own rules) to a list then all ban that person/account proactively?

Doesn't matter because reddit accounts don't hold the same weight as twitter accounts. Making a new reddit account is trivial and you lose absolutely nothing.

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Post by nvr219 »

monsieurbanana wrote: post #421
hanniabu wrote: post #366

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> Huh, I hadn't used new reddit in a long time, I actually took a look now and it seems like it has improved significantly. The UI itself isn't horrible, it's the UX. It's incredibly bulky and slow, and some user links have been hidden while others completely removed.

I can't wait until reddit removes old.reddit altogether. I will have so much more free time.

I pretty much only use Apollo to read reddit so unfortunately I will not be freed from the shackles quite so easily :-/

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by canofbars »

fernly wrote: post #388

So sad, nobody remembers Imzy, the "nice reddit" founded by Dan McComas. It really was nice, had highly varied, friendly communities and a pleasant UI. Couldn't get traction, apparently. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/05/imzy-the-nice-reddit...

Also https://tildes.net/

This has been tried and tried 1000 times. The problem is reddit is good enough for most people so an alternative will never take off until reddit starts being not good enough

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by hutzlibu »

concordDance wrote: post #485
IgorPartola wrote: post #359

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What you say has a kernel of truth to it, but I think you are thinking of the wrong tool for the job. There was a well studied psychological phenomenon (sorry I can’t recall the name of the researchers at the moment) where if you put people of similar ideology in a room together and let them converse for a period of time, they will come out of that room holding more extreme views than they went in with, down to holdi…

> Lastly, yes it is true that some points of view are just wrong. There are in fact bad ideas. Eugenics is a bad idea. Racism is a bad idea. Misogyny is a bad idea. As someone who has been looking for good anti-racialist arguments for a long time (along with explanations for why eugenics is wrong and why we think there aren't substantial sex differences that make the sexes on average more suited to different things)…

"why we think there aren't substantial sex differences that make the sexes on average more suited to different things"

I don't know any sane person who thinks that.

Feminism was about that woman have the right to choose a role, that was traditionally reserved for men (and the other way around).

That women does not get discriminated for being women.

The fight against the idea, that women are made for household and kitchen (and bed).

But yes, that originate idea got forgotten quite a bit, to the point where women get he idea hat it is wrong for a woman to be at home and take care of the kids and not pursue a carieer.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by [deleted] »

brian-armstrong wrote: post #437
Afforess wrote: post #24

How is lemmy going to avoid the fate of the last reddit alternative (voat)? Voat attracted the communities banned from reddit, e.g the worst of the worst: jailbait, creepshots, beatingwomen, etc. The users most interested in an alternative to reddit are on average, the exact wrong type of user to help with the growth of a healthy community. I don't see any information on how being "federated" solves the hard problem…

It's probably not possible in the current universe of the web, at least not without significant attention spent solely on this issue. In general a larger social network has more value if it can help you find people who share each of your interests, e.g. there is a subreddit for all things. There will always be a group of people who are drawn to new tech, but it needs to somehow actually solve a real problem that the…

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Post by dabbernaught420 »

concordDance wrote: post #484
guerrilla wrote: post #398

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Nobody wonders whats inside the door of pedophilia and nazism. We know. It's well documented.

Indeed. And it turns out whether pedophilia is harmful is actually controversial. See Rind et al.

Just make sure your handle isn't tied to your real name.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by davidgerard »

Afforess wrote: post #24

How is lemmy going to avoid the fate of the last reddit alternative (voat)? Voat attracted the communities banned from reddit, e.g the worst of the worst: jailbait, creepshots, beatingwomen, etc. The users most interested in an alternative to reddit are on average, the exact wrong type of user to help with the growth of a healthy community. I don't see any information on how being "federated" solves the hard problem…

It can work - compare Mastodon to Gab or Parler, for example.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by mynameishere »

So, on my first and last visit to "Lemmy" I observed the admin "nutomic" providing the world with his political philosophy:

Any platform that emphasises “free speech” will be full of fascists sooner or later

No, I don't want to have anything to do with a website controlled by an unusually foolish five year old.

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Post by prox »

nexuist wrote: post #493
FranzFerdiNaN wrote: post #486

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If you feel restricted by rules preventing you from being hurtful towards others, the problem is you, not the rules.

If you can't speak out or express thoughts against the rules, you are ceding your own ability to ever change the rules. Allowing a small subset of people to control the rules for the masses has never, will never, and could not ever work in a free society. The small groups of Twitter and Reddit moderators are far too small to ever represent the diversity of human thought. You may think the rules prevent harm today, bu…

I think there is a dichotomy here, one is rules, the other is ethics, both are different discussions.

For instance, can an ethical case be made for watching people die? Is there any benefit to be gained from this beyond the first novelty factor. (A rhetorical question, just to note that the ethical debate precedes rule making)

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by luckylion »

asdf21 wrote: post #337
orthecreedence wrote: post #334

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That's the thing! It doesn't stop hate speech. "I think we should eliminate all of (((those people)))." I didn't use the k-word, but everyone knows what the sentence means. On the other hand, you can't post "tranny" or "bitch" but, bitch is contextual: it's definition is a female dog, but even in the context of "wow she's such a bitch" bitch is not a slur . "Tranny" is derogatory in the context when used against tran…

In restaurants I worked in a long time ago, servers would just call black people "Canadians" -- for instance, "Nope, don't sit those Canadians in my section, they don't tip." Good luck filtering for stuff like that. And even if you did, people would just come up with new version. Re: The core problem... Why would having extreme right wingers use your site even be a problem? Presumably extreme left wingers are okay?

> Re: The core problem... Why would having extreme right wingers use your site even be a problem? Presumably extreme left wingers are okay?

The developers are extreme left wingers, so yes, it's just a tribal thing, not a "I don't want to write software for extremists" thing.

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