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Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by monsieurbanana »

hanniabu wrote: post #366
ehsankia wrote: post #253

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While I agree that new reddit is awful, I still much prefer old reddit to this. Also what's up with this new trend of having the main content width-restricted, but not the header [0]? The new GitHub UI that went live this week has the exact same problem on wide screens. What kind of UX designer ever approved such a mess and why do so many sites do this? The main UI itself, again very width restricted, but also has st…

> Huh, I hadn't used new reddit in a long time, I actually took a look now and it seems like it has improved significantly. The UI itself isn't horrible, it's the UX. It's incredibly bulky and slow, and some user links have been hidden while others completely removed.

I can't wait until reddit removes old.reddit altogether. I will have so much more free time.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by kixiQu »

noobermin wrote: post #416
gopiandcode wrote: post #410

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I believe this is more of a problem for centralized services - federation gives freedom to the user to choose the level of moderation/censorship they want - if you find certain communities distasteful, you can just join servers that block these communities. I think it is important however to have a strong emphasis on the separation of the servers from the protocol though - no one seems to care that Nazis could use em…

The problem is no one used the federated services.

more than you'd think! https://fediverse.network/

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by goatsi »

philipkglass wrote: post #97
MattGaiser wrote: post #18

How is this going to avoid becoming like Voat? Reddit already has competitors. It is just that they are cesspools as the only people who have a strong reason to leave reddit are those reddit has banned.

Most of the arguments about social media content policies center around American politics, but Reddit has been banning other potential lightning rods for controversy. They banned DarkNetMarkets, Deepfakes, and SanctionedSuicide in 2018. They banned WatchPeopleDie last year [1]. It's not hard to see why Reddit would ban any of these, but at some point there may be a critical mass of too-controversial-for-Reddit conten…

/r/DarkNetMarkets was banned because of the FOSTA-SESTA anti-sex "trafficking" bill. The government forced Reddit's hand on that.

https://medium.com/@pylorns/the-reddit-spring-the-great-liba...

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by yxhuvud »

agensaequivocum wrote: post #298
all-fakes wrote: post #292

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> It's a scientific and political position. What exactly do you mean by "scientific position"? The term seems, to me, an absurdity. > Doesn't make it okay. Putting aside any actual wrongdoing, attacking those with privilege is infinitely better than attacking those without: the former have the resources to defend themselves; the latter do not.

> What exactly do you mean by "scientific position"? The term seems, to me, an absurdity. In the same way your stance on climate change is a scientific position regardless if your stance is correct or not. > the former have the resources to defend themselves; the latter do not. It's still an evil to unjustly attack someone even if to different degrees.

And who decides what is just or not? Somehow the privileged ones always think they use their privilege in a just way.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by kixiQu »

TulliusCicero wrote: post #211

Neat, but the big test for a discussion platform like this is what happens when they get big enough to matter, to get the attention of journalists looking for a scoop. It's easy to slide by with haphazard (or no) moderation when you're small. Discussion extremists (trolls, bigots, and the like) are less attracted to smaller platforms; they'd prefer bigger ones, if any would take them. I'm curious what will happen wit…

why are there so many comments assuming that the point of this project is to facilitate lighter moderation than Reddit has? the code of conduct on the site is pretty clear, actually.

now, can you start a federated instance with that kind of content? sure. but just like how none of the normal mastodon servers federate with Gab, no one would have to federate with the cesspool.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by imetatroll »

rsynnott wrote: post #295
ehsankia wrote: post #265

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But often these sites start doing the right thing and then restrict it, tkaing a step backward. Before: https://i.imgur.com/sgODcLW.png After: https://i.imgur.com/8j7P1YE.png The latter is objectively worse. I understand that > 1080p monitors are a small fraction of your user base, but that's still not reason to not test your UI on larger resolutions, for a site as big (and prominently used by devs with large screens…

Do that many people use maximised windows on 16:9 or greater screens? Maybe it’s just because all my early experience was on 4:3, but I’d never maximise a browser window on a modern screen. I’d agree this is bad design, but I’d be somewhat surprised if it’s a big practical problem for most people.

I use xmonad as a window manager and do have one workspace where my browser lives. I find the new layout to be a pretty steep downgrade.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by airtonix »

IgorPartola wrote: post #320
jimbob45 wrote: post #286

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You’ve got to give people a space to consider both sides of every argument. Better to cordone off that space than have that discussion elsewhere. If you tell someone NEVER GO INTO THE LAST DOOR ON THE THIRD STORY, they’ll endlessly wonder what’s inside. If you show them that it’s your amateur paintings, they’ll never care again.

I don’t need to have a discussion with a guy who beats his wife because he never got help for his PTSD to know it’s wrong. Giving it a platform treats it like a point of view and not a gross fucking crime. I don’t need to talk to a Nazi to know that gassing Jews and gays is wrong. People seem to think that there are some unexplored ideas here that merit further discussion. We have already established that this shit i…

And here is where the SpeakWrite machine was given authority to rewrite history in order to satisfy "The Grinning Fox" as Malcom X puts it.

If you don't want to talk to those people, then don't. But to stand there and claim to speak for all of us and claim you are the authority on what topics are authorised for discussion is such an disgusting level of narcisistic meglomania that needs to be stamped out.

You're just a Totalitarian, and you should be put on a podium along side your historial commrades (and their outcomes) for all to hear and see.

This shit has happened before, and many millions were silenced into the siberian wastelands for it.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by airtonix »

IgorPartola wrote: post #359
sgillen wrote: post #347

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You might not need to talk to that guy to know beating his wife was wrong. But talking to him may make you realize he’s in a lot of pain, and that he’s been hurt by a system larger than both of you. That doesn’t absolve him of guilt but I think pragmatically it gives us a better shot at preventing such things in the far future. You don’t have to browse Nazi forums to know that gassing Jews is wrong. But you may start…

What you say has a kernel of truth to it, but I think you are thinking of the wrong tool for the job. There was a well studied psychological phenomenon (sorry I can’t recall the name of the researchers at the moment) where if you put people of similar ideology in a room together and let them converse for a period of time, they will come out of that room holding more extreme views than they went in with, down to holdi…

if you think you can be the arbitar of moral discussion without corruption, you are sorely mistaken. or you take us all for fools.
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