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Safari now blocks Google Analytics on sites, new Privacy Report feature shows

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Re: Safari now blocks Google Analytics on sites, new Privacy Report feature shows

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Post by XCSme »

Cenk wrote: post #102
XCSme wrote: post #101

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Are you happy with how fast the data loads in Matomo? I tried their online demo and everything load very slowly and content kept jumping around, it felt pretty bad in terms of UX.

Agreed on this – everything in Matomo is slow and I find the UI clunky.

I am actually working on an alternative ( https://usertrack.net/ ), even though I never used Matomo. I did try their demo a few days ago and, being so popular, I expected it to be really good, but it felt like an outdated platform that couldn't care less about UX.

Re: Safari now blocks Google Analytics on sites, new Privacy Report feature shows

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Post by lmkg »

lenwood wrote: post #100
gowld wrote: post #97

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What is the difference between First party and third party GA?

Strictly speaking, GA is always 3rd party (it would only be 1st party if/when its used to measure google-analytics.com which is not a user-facing domain). For measuring any other website, its 3rd party. I believe that this would limit GA's ability to store data in cookies on my system (user or session-based attributes). GA could still create unique identifiers based on my user or session-based attributes and store th…

In the context of web analytics, first-party vs third-party usually refers to how the user is identified, not to where the analytics status is hosted. Google Analytics uses first-party data for its tracking. Third-party tracking builds a universal profile of the user across the internet, first-party tracking builds user profiles that are silo'd to the website.

Google Analytics stores a first-party cookie with a unique ID for each user. This is used to de-duplicate traffic from the same user to the same domain. This cookie not shared across websites. If you go to example.com and website.com, those are two different first-party cookies without views into each other.

Optionally, Google Analytics can be configured correlated this with a third-party cookie from google.com for advertising purposes. This allows the website owner for example.com to connect a user converting on example.com to that same user having seen or clicked an ad on google.com. It also allows the website owner to target ads on google.com towards users based on their activity on example.com

Previous iterations of Safari's ITP have outright blocked the third-party cookie, and have limited first-party cookies based on whether they're HTTP cookies or JavaScript cookies.

Re: Safari now blocks Google Analytics on sites, new Privacy Report feature shows

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Post by heavymark »

The webkit engineer behind "Safari’s Intelligent Tracking Prevention" on Twitter confirmed when asked there have been no changes to how it blocks GA in the new version, it just is now visible in the report. And details, ITP doesn’t block loads, it blocks cookie access, deletes cookies and website data for sites you don’t interact with, downgrades referrers, and more. Its cookie blocking applies to all third parties." I responded that it seems all the new sites are reporting that GA is now being blocked/prevented in the new version are incorrect then. And these headlines appearing on Hacker News it looks like will only further unintentionally spread that misinformation.

Re: Safari now blocks Google Analytics on sites, new Privacy Report feature shows

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Post by PudgePacket »

mav3rick wrote: post #46
PudgePacket wrote: post #32

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The value in DDG is the userbase and brand.

LOL, and what about the Apple brand ?

Not saying there isn't value in Apple brand, just that DDG's value is in it's brand.

Re: Safari now blocks Google Analytics on sites, new Privacy Report feature shows

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Post by PudgePacket »

alecco wrote: post #42
PudgePacket wrote: post #32

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The value in DDG is the userbase and brand.

Apple is orders of magnitude bigger on both accounts.

Not saying there isn't value in Apple brand, or that it's bigger, just that DDG's value is in it's brand.

Re: Safari now blocks Google Analytics on sites, new Privacy Report feature shows

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Post by tatersolid »

panpanna wrote: post #2

How about the 500 other tracking/analytics companies? Even Adobe is now in analytics business.

Adobe somehow hosts critical CSS assets for some adobe.com pages using their tracking domain(s), resulting in a broken page in Firefox due to tracking protection.

I think they do this to encourage people to turn off FF or other tracking protection. Instead they lost an enterprise license renewal as I was “encouraged” to look elsewhere.

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