I heard this anecdote in India, and I'm not sure if it is apocryphal. There was a small airline flying turboprops to service a Himalayan region. Someone asked whether it was safe to fly these planes and the response was as hilarious as it was scary: "Yes, sir. It is very safe. They used to have 11 planes, 10 of them crashed and now they are really really careful with the one left" :)
Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says
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Re: Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says
#32Older article, but apparently Pakistan carts its nuclear weapons around in regular delivery vans: https://www.wired.com/2011/11/pakistan-nukes-delivery-vans/ I personally think this is a bad idea.
The Brits moved the plutonium or HEU (don’t remember which) for their first bomb around in quite ordinary lorries:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk_zpjK3cTo
I’m not saying it’s a good idea, but there’s certainly precedent.
Re: Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says
#33The use of the word “fake” is misleading, they seem to mean genuine certificates issued illegally, not downright Photoshop’d documents.
Re: Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says
#34Start at the 4 minute mark here: https://youtu.be/oUOn6FrDPwg?t=240 Infuriating series of events. It's not simply a matter of pilot error, it's criminal negligence.
For every choice he had to make on the approach, he made the wrong one. He literally did everything wrong, and ignored every warning. It's almost inconceivable that someone could screw up as badly as he did.
> For every choice he had to make on the approach, he made the wrong one.
*As they did. 2 pilots, both ignored the warnings from the airplane, and the initial ones from the tower about approach speed and altitude.
Re: Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says
#35TBF, Pilots not being qualified to fly commercially happens elsewhere too [1].
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_English_Channel_Piper_PA-...
Re: Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says
#36The use of the word “fake” is misleading, they seem to mean genuine certificates issued illegally, not downright Photoshop’d documents.
I disagree. Paying someone else to take an exam in one's place definitely makes the resulting license fake, and definitely makes it not genuine. They just used a different process than Photoshop to produce the false document.
Semantics. I must disclose that English is not my first language.
Re: Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, the pilot or co-pilot would have to actually fly, but over time the fake pilot would pick up skills. Rumor was that in India, pilot licenses were $1000 at the back door of one govt building. Some accidents found one pilot would have the fake license.
That'd make for an awkward conversation if both pilots had a fake license. "You know how to fly this thing?" "No, I hoped you would."
While the plane in the background is like ring ring ring ring goddamn cycle that gear lever pretty please ring ring ring ring
Re: Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says
#38From the preliminary report:
'At 500 ft, the FDR indicates: landing gear retracted, slat/flap configuration 3, airspeed 220 knots IAS, descent rate 2000 ft/min. According to the FDR and CVR recordings several warnings and alerts such as over-speed, landing gear not down and ground proximity alerts were disregarded. The landing was undertaken with landing gears retracted. The aircraft touched the runway surface on its engines. Flight crew applied reverse engine power and initiated a braking action. Both engines scrubbed the runway at various locations causing damage to both of them. [...]'
I'm amazed that the airplane managed to become airborne again despite the engines being dragged down the runway with reverse thrust selected.
Re: Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says
#39On a smaller but more widespread scale is the issue of fake licenses for driving automobiles. It is common knowledge how you can get these licenses easily in "some" (similar) countries without ever giving a driving test and/or going through any sort of written exam where you have to go through the rules of the road.
Some argue that they are only endangering their own lives on the road but one can see how that is complete BS when you are on the road and come across such drivers.
If people were put through an extremely arduous journey to get their driving licenses with the possibility of them being taken away when you break a certain degree of rules, people would have a strong motivation to not be negligent on the road.
Re: Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says
#40Start at the 4 minute mark here: https://youtu.be/oUOn6FrDPwg?t=240 Infuriating series of events. It's not simply a matter of pilot error, it's criminal negligence.
There's an updated video from the same channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO5rXxJRmf4 I'd start at 4:50.
Is any cockpit audio removed from this?
It's pretty damn silent for two guys who are about to smash an airplane into a residential area.