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An even worse anti-encryption bill than EARN IT

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Re: An even worse anti-encryption bill than EARN IT

#172

Do we need an amendment to the constitution? We can't keep fighting these fights. Eventually they will win.

Yes, I'm surprised there is no "right to privacy" spelled out in clear terms. Sounds like that would be a wonderful thing to add directly to the Constitution.

Re: An even worse anti-encryption bill than EARN IT

#174
A Twitter thread [1] from Matthew Green in this bill. Essentially he says that this bill is a dead on arrival bill which is designed to make EARN IT look like a fair compromise.

And we better not fall for it

[1] https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/12759760840231198...

Re: An even worse anti-encryption bill than EARN IT

#176
post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's what concentration camp is for. To concentrate and control. There were separate death camps (sometimes combined) that involved direct train-to-killing-field pipelines, and most concentration camps involved work in horrible conditions, but that's because of further goals above relocation.

Not in the US.

That some concentration camps in other countries were also death camps is entirely the point. They are not the same thing, but they're just one step removed. In fact, thousands of people died in the American camps even though there was not an official policy of extermination.

Re: An even worse anti-encryption bill than EARN IT

#177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whats worst is these should all be entirely illegal. Its literally warrantless searching.

I'm not in favor of the bill, but a warrant is still required (at least for domestic stuff).

The dragnet surveillance apparati searching through all your communications have warrants to do so? Certainly not. They redefined what "search" means so that it's only a search if the dragnet finds something and an analyst retrieves it. This loophole lets them conduct searches with complete disregard for the 4th amendment.

So long as the courts entertain the loophole, it's more accurate to say that searches do not require a warrant than to say that they do.

Re: An even worse anti-encryption bill than EARN IT

#178

Please stop voting dumbasses in the US, it affects everyone living in countries who have commercial agreements with then

This might be an unpopular opinion, but I don't think we should encourage people to vote as much as we do. Voting is an opportunity to make your voice heard. If you have nothing to say about the issues facing a particular office, don't vote. I do not vote for candidates who I am not informed about, but many people do. Those uninformed votes just drown out the voice of the informed voters and reinforce the party-line…

> Those uninformed votes just drown out the voice of the informed voters

I've always been a fan of general election ballots showing names, in a randomized order, with no reference to party.

Re: An even worse anti-encryption bill than EARN IT

#179

A Twitter thread [1] from Matthew Green in this bill. Essentially he says that this bill is a dead on arrival bill which is designed to make EARN IT look like a fair compromise. And we better not fall for it [1] https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/12759760840231198...

We (HNers) might not fall for it but the proven technologically illiterate Representatives and their staff just might. This is why citizen's lobbying is so important. If the lawmakers are willfully ignorant - or in this case willfully arrogant about attacking encryption - the only thing that will get them to vote the right way is to hear from enough real constituents that the lawmakers feel like their reelection will be in jeapordy if they do vote the wrong way.
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