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iOS14 reveals that TikTok may snoop clipboard contents every few keystrokes

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Re: iOS14 reveals that TikTok may snoop clipboard contents every few keystrokes

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It seems like a ton of apps are abusing this feature: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRSWdtoUAjo I categorize this as another reason why "just trust us," just isn't acceptable enough when it comes to data privacy and ownership. Companies just cannot be trusted to treat their users' data with respect given the option of: profit or privacy. (sourced from reddit: https://old.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/hejb9i/ios14_cat…

People love to hate on Apple but the fact is, they continue to release features to better showcase or restrict developers that abuse your privacy. The "walled garden" also ensures they apply a ton of checks to apps to better restrict abuses. Sometimes it's overly sensitive and bad things happen, but in general it's awesome that over time it becomes harder and harder to get away with apps blatantly spying on you.

No, you're really only transferring the trust onto Apple.

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People love to hate on Apple but the fact is, they continue to release features to better showcase or restrict developers that abuse your privacy. The "walled garden" also ensures they apply a ton of checks to apps to better restrict abuses. Sometimes it's overly sensitive and bad things happen, but in general it's awesome that over time it becomes harder and harder to get away with apps blatantly spying on you.

Android similarly has been continually improving the privacy/permissions model of the OS when it comes to third party apps. I am not sure that Apple has any obvious advantage in that department specifically.

> continually improving the privacy/permissions model

Though an extremely annoying side effect is that they are also handicapping one of the best android features: user scripting with tools like automagic4android [i] and tasker [ii]. To wit: https://www.reddit.com/r/tasker/comments/b1272l/android_q_ta...

[i] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ch.gridvision.... [ii] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.dinglisch....

Re: iOS14 reveals that TikTok may snoop clipboard contents every few keystrokes

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This is the problem with Chinese apps. You just can't rely on them. They simply don't have the same principles of privacy like US companies do. Even Facebook won't do something like this.

Plenty of US companies build apps that do the exact same thing (checking your clipboard).

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Android similarly has been continually improving the privacy/permissions model of the OS when it comes to third party apps. I am not sure that Apple has any obvious advantage in that department specifically.

Even if one were to ignore Google’s data collection, any non-vanilla android installation would have been butchered by the vendor (Samsung, Motorola, etc) to the point any expectation of security (and in turn privacy) is lost to the least secure app pre-installed. I had ESFileExplorer installed on a Nexus 7 tablet I barely used. One day I start it to find the charging has switched to “smart charging” where this softw…

Lineage is a must on any phone I get. I reckon I haven't had a vendor distro on my phone since 2012

Re: iOS14 reveals that TikTok may snoop clipboard contents every few keystrokes

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Updates are still pushed by the manufacturer. I have the Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite (with Android One) and only got Android 10 last week. Biggest advantage is that it's a pure Android with no bloatware from the manufacturer. Also you get a guarantee IIRC to have at least two versions upgrades for the phone (my Xiaomi came with Android 8, so 10 should be the last one), and most of all security updates.

I mean, the fact that you need to say “pure android” kinda says it all, though. All iOS is pure iOS. That’s the selling point for me, at least.

That's only because there are no other vendors to muddy the meaning of "pure". Only one vendor of devices for the OS means only one conception about what "pure iOS" means. It doesn't necessarily mean that Apple's conception of iOS is the best possible conception of iOS.

Re: iOS14 reveals that TikTok may snoop clipboard contents every few keystrokes

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Using fiddler I briefly looked and didn't see tiktok sending my clipboard contents anywhere. Edit: However, tiktok is one of the chattiest apps I've looked at. They have a huge number of tracking/logging/collection endpoints constantly slurping data in the background. See my hosts list which aims to block this: https://github.com/llacb47/mischosts/blob/master/tiktok-host...

Wow...I can’t imagine managing all of those.

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Android similarly has been continually improving the privacy/permissions model of the OS when it comes to third party apps. I am not sure that Apple has any obvious advantage in that department specifically.

Android is a spyware operating system filled with first party spyware apps developed by Google.

As opposed to apple which isn't because... apple says so.

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I've only ever been an Android user, but for a while I was paying a lot of attention to iOS too. It seems to me like they've been back and forthing, as one side figures out some improvements, the other side more-or-less re-implements them on their next release with their own unrelated improvements. Seems like a good thing, really.

From my perspective it seems like Apple keeps releasing new privacy features and Android keeps being forced to catch up. What are the major privacy enhancements that Google has put out first?

Android blocked background clipboard access in 2019.

Re: iOS14 reveals that TikTok may snoop clipboard contents every few keystrokes

#180

iOS already prompts for other things like "app Foo would like to know your location: Never, Only when open, Always". Users are use to this. I'd love a popup like: "TikTok wants to see what you've copied into your clipboard: Never, Once, Always, Uninstall that spyware". Then I could make informed decisions, like sure, my package tracker can see if there's a FedEx URL in my clipboard. I'm OK with that. There's literall…

It’s unbelievable that Apple would leave this security hole wide open for so long. Notifying the user is not enough.

I would love to know what OS you're using that requires permissions for foreground app access to the system clipboard.
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