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Post by what_ever »

dylan604 wrote: post #108
patrickyeon wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've only ever been an Android user, but for a while I was paying a lot of attention to iOS too. It seems to me like they've been back and forthing, as one side figures out some improvements, the other side more-or-less re-implements them on their next release with their own unrelated improvements. Seems like a good thing, really.

Not being an Android user, one of the negatives that was often talked about (maybe no longer true?) is that a lot of phones could not upgrade to new versions of Android. Is that still a thing, or was that limited to the lower tier phones?

Security updates are pushed monthly though. And Samsung supports security updates for much longer period.

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Post by cwhiz »

shawnz wrote: post #77
alfalfasprout wrote: post #47

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People love to hate on Apple but the fact is, they continue to release features to better showcase or restrict developers that abuse your privacy. The "walled garden" also ensures they apply a ton of checks to apps to better restrict abuses. Sometimes it's overly sensitive and bad things happen, but in general it's awesome that over time it becomes harder and harder to get away with apps blatantly spying on you.

Android similarly has been continually improving the privacy/permissions model of the OS when it comes to third party apps. I am not sure that Apple has any obvious advantage in that department specifically.

Android is a spyware operating system filled with first party spyware apps developed by Google.

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Post by shawnz »

dylan604 wrote: post #108
patrickyeon wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've only ever been an Android user, but for a while I was paying a lot of attention to iOS too. It seems to me like they've been back and forthing, as one side figures out some improvements, the other side more-or-less re-implements them on their next release with their own unrelated improvements. Seems like a good thing, really.

Not being an Android user, one of the negatives that was often talked about (maybe no longer true?) is that a lot of phones could not upgrade to new versions of Android. Is that still a thing, or was that limited to the lower tier phones?

It is true that many vendors abandon their devices more quickly than I would like, but it depends on the vendor and the "flagshipness" of the device. Also, since version 8.0, Google has made a number of improvements to the modularity of the OS which make it easier for vendors to release updates ("Project Treble"), so the problem has been reduced somewhat

Re: iOS14 reveals that TikTok may snoop clipboard contents every few keystrokes

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Post by PatrolX »

Here's a test you should run.

Create a bitly account if you don't have one and login and create a bitly link for anything, it doesn't matter what it is.

Copy that bitly link to your clipboard and repeat what you're doing in that video.

Monitor the bitly link for clicks.

Better still do it on a website you control with a unique URL that won't get indexed by a search engine and monitor the web server log files for hits and keep a record of the IP addresses.

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Post by dogecoinbase »

the_gipsy wrote: post #104
kingnight wrote: post #100

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Because you would need to write and/or audit your entire technology toolchain — software, build tools, operating systems, hardware, etc — which isn't feasible for anyone.

not a single person, but the sum of all people looking at the different parts. that's how open source works.

The (ongoing) saga of libssh alone should be enough convincing that many eyes do nothing as regards shallowness.

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Post by freedomben »

czzr wrote: post #59
dheera wrote: post #52

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I'm probably going to get downvoted to hell for saying this (again) but this still doesn't solve the problem of whether Apple themselves are abusing your privacy. Also, the closed-source OS means it's impossible to see what things are doing under the hood, or modify the behavior of the OS itself to be more privacy friendly. For example, on Apple if you aren't happy with an app snooping on your IMU data, you're out of…

> On Android (by modifying the OS) I’m genuinely curious how you can imagine this is a realistic solution.

Check out the Xposed framework. It's pretty neat.

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Post by bchanudet »

tedivm wrote: post #119
dylan604 wrote: post #108

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Not being an Android user, one of the negatives that was often talked about (maybe no longer true?) is that a lot of phones could not upgrade to new versions of Android. Is that still a thing, or was that limited to the lower tier phones?

It's definitely still a thing, as android updates are normally pushed by the manufacturers. The Android One phones are an exception to this.

Updates are still pushed by the manufacturer. I have the Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite (with Android One) and only got Android 10 last week.

Biggest advantage is that it's a pure Android with no bloatware from the manufacturer. Also you get a guarantee IIRC to have at least two versions upgrades for the phone (my Xiaomi came with Android 8, so 10 should be the last one), and most of all security updates.

Re: iOS14 reveals that TikTok may snoop clipboard contents every few keystrokes

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Post by patrickyeon »

tedivm wrote: post #114
patrickyeon wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've only ever been an Android user, but for a while I was paying a lot of attention to iOS too. It seems to me like they've been back and forthing, as one side figures out some improvements, the other side more-or-less re-implements them on their next release with their own unrelated improvements. Seems like a good thing, really.

From my perspective it seems like Apple keeps releasing new privacy features and Android keeps being forced to catch up. What are the major privacy enhancements that Google has put out first?

Sorry, I don't have a history of this here. I'm running off my sense of a fair portion of the time when I hear "this new privacy feature coming to iOS" I think "oh I've had that for a little while", and the rest of the time something equivalent shows up later for Android.

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Post by afterburner »

dylan604 wrote: post #108
patrickyeon wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've only ever been an Android user, but for a while I was paying a lot of attention to iOS too. It seems to me like they've been back and forthing, as one side figures out some improvements, the other side more-or-less re-implements them on their next release with their own unrelated improvements. Seems like a good thing, really.

Not being an Android user, one of the negatives that was often talked about (maybe no longer true?) is that a lot of phones could not upgrade to new versions of Android. Is that still a thing, or was that limited to the lower tier phones?

Lol you realize this used to be true of iOS too? I know after a few years my 3GS definitely wouldn't be able to handle the next iOS version.
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