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Like, agoraphobia must be developing at an insane rate right now.
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> The current best science answer to how many people remain susceptible to infection is "nobody really knows but our best guess is not to assume the best case without better evidence so act like the worst case". Absolutely not. The scientific approach is to look at the new disease and see how it compares to other similar RTIs. For instance, covid19 was discovered around October at the start of the seasonal flu season…
> Absolutely not. The scientific approach is to look at the new disease and see how it compares to other similar RTIs. I think the the scientific approach is to use the best data you have at a given time and update your understanding as you get new data. You make a lot of big claims that contradict multiple specific studies with published results. It's clear you hope that the epidemic is over (as we all do). But hope…
So far the pandemic, in my life, has been a neurotic people power play. I can't go 10 minutes in my day without someone commenting on seeing someone without a mask or walking too close to them. I am wearing my mask as advised, but that people thing its ok to chastise others for not, is wild to me. R is below 1 in my county, and yesterday our governor decided to make not wearing a mask a misdemeanor offense with jail time. That is insane especially in this justice system environment.
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Sure... and then consider that, unlike swine flu or seasonal flu, COVID-19 has already killed hundreds of thousands of people even with near-total lockdowns to the point of dystopic absurdity in many countries†, has done so over the course of only a few months, and due to lackluster government response in some countries is still increasing exponentially in some places. † See China's brief use of 'only specific design…
You can't deduce the gravity of a threat from the state's response to it. Just consider the ~0 killed by terrorism each year in western countries vs the security theater at airports.
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People want this thing to be over, so there's a desire to find reasons to believe that we are further along than we thought. Combined with this being a novel disease that no one fully understands, there's a lot of room for those theories to develop. The current best science answer to how many people remain susceptible to infection is "nobody really knows but our best guess is not to assume the best case without bette…
> The current best science answer to how many people remain susceptible to infection is "nobody really knows but our best guess is not to assume the best case without better evidence so act like the worst case". Absolutely not. The scientific approach is to look at the new disease and see how it compares to other similar RTIs. For instance, covid19 was discovered around October at the start of the seasonal flu season…
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That's not true. All believable statistics I have seen show only very small number of deaths in age group 55 and lower. Outrageous claims require outrageous proofs, you need to volunteer your sources if you want to convince anybody that 55 and younger are large share of deaths. "From what I have heard" is not an outrageous proof on HN. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-se...
There's different ways of looking at statistics. Most statistics are about the death rates for infected cases per age group, which doesn't account for situations where elderly people are kept from coming into contact with the virus in the first place. Unfortunately, I'm unable to find good global statistics on absolute number of deaths broken down per age group. I have come across the claim I mentioned in response to…
But you do realise over 120 THOUSAND died in the US in total. 610 out of 120,000+ is a mere half percent.
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>> What I'm curious is about is the percentage of people (younger or otherwise) who either develop no symptoms or develop symptoms so mild as to not be attributed to the virus. Do such people exist? My spouse and I both work in a hospital. She got covid and so did one of our two siblings. Neither of them had any symptoms (spouse is in her 50's, our sibling is twenty plus.) I never got it nor did our other sibling. I…
> My spouse and I both work in a hospital. She got covid and so did one of our two siblings. Neither of them had any symptoms (spouse is in her 50's, our sibling is twenty plus.) I never got it nor did our other sibling. I also don't have antibodies. Go figure... it makes no sense to me. I know it's anecdotal but it's interesting that your spouse contracted the virus but you did not. I'm assuming you live together. B…
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There wasn't a consensus back in February that covid19 was the black plague. Even though we didn't have the data to justify shutdowns, governments everywhere shutdown businesses because politicians won't personally feel the pain of job loss.
> Even though we didn't have the data to justify shutdowns 0.2% of the entire population of New York City died over the course of a few months, even with a full lockdown in place.
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Do you realize how many of those people would have perished this year anyway? Do you realize how many hundreds of millions of people die every year and that covid barely registers as a blip? Do you realize the enormous human cost of quarantine has to be weighed against this?
We have pretty good ideas of what normal death rates are like, and we see huge numbers of excess mortality. > that covid barely registers as a blip? What figures are you looking at for all cause mortality please?
History books will not be kind to our past and present handling of covid-19. Incurring incredible economic and social damage without fully understanding the threat. It’s been very clear for some time that covid is not nearly as lethal as once feared AND even more clear that we over quarantined. In the UK we have hospitals built specifically for covid that are completely unused. This isn’t flattening the curve, it’s c…
> History books will not be kind to our past and present handling of covid-19. History has not been approving of the casual disregard for human life and probably won’t be in this case either. For the US, I think history will judge us harshly for our overall lack of response. (We’re scaling back pretty much every response for short-sighted political reasons even as cases are starting to spike again.)
This is not disregard for human life. This is nature.
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> only to face weeks or months of recovery. FTR, this also happens with other respiratory diseases. You can also take quite a bit of time (months) to fully recover from "regular" pneumonia.
Which is still really bad! Especially when wearing a mask may prevent spread by 70%. Just because other diseases are also bad is not reason to shirk personal safety and protection. I don't want the flu same as I don't want COVID.
Even the reported brain infections (neural invasion) aren't a unique feature of this virus, but are recorded as happening with other coronaviruses (the most common ones, not SARS or MERS).