Initial Covid-19 infection rate may be 80 times greater than originally reported

Post by _bxg1 » Wed, Jun 24, 2020, 2:54 PM UTC

lol768 wrote: post #107

chosenbreed37 wrote: post #86

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> - The disease is astronomically worse for elderly people. One study said that for young person, getting COVID was as risky as going for a ~200 mile car drive but as a 90 year old it was as risky as flying a WWII bomber mission Interesting comparison. So here we're talking about the risk of dying from Covid-19. What about the risk of becoming seriously ill? What I'm curious is about is the percentage of people (youn…

There's also not enough discussion about what happens after recovery. I was pretty ill in March (and, to a lesser extent, in April), which necessitated some time off work. Testing availability in my country was useless at the time, so I have no formal confirmation as to what it actually was. The govt also intervened, preventing my order of a private sector antibody test being fulfilled, so who knows. The experience a…

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Jun 24, 2020, 2:58 PM UTC

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ageitgey wrote: post #131

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> From what I heard, about half the deaths are people under 55. The individual risk is still higher the older you are, but plenty of young people have died from this. You are incorrect. COVID is largely a disease that affects the elderly and those with pre-existing conditions. Here are the actual numbers from England (England only, not to be confused with the overall UK): - All COVID deaths, age 0-59: 2,210 - All COV…

Note that the person I was responding to was talking about 10s of people, you're already pointing out it's hundreds or thousands. My point is merely: don't think you're immune just because you're young. More young people have died from this than most people think.

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Jun 24, 2020, 3:09 PM UTC

mcv wrote: post #122

lmilcin wrote: post #98

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That's not true. All believable statistics I have seen show only very small number of deaths in age group 55 and lower. Outrageous claims require outrageous proofs, you need to volunteer your sources if you want to convince anybody that 55 and younger are large share of deaths. "From what I have heard" is not an outrageous proof on HN. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-se...

There's different ways of looking at statistics. Most statistics are about the death rates for infected cases per age group, which doesn't account for situations where elderly people are kept from coming into contact with the virus in the first place. Unfortunately, I'm unable to find good global statistics on absolute number of deaths broken down per age group. I have come across the claim I mentioned in response to…

Post by s1artibartfast » Wed, Jun 24, 2020, 3:23 PM UTC

mcv wrote: post #122

lmilcin wrote: post #98

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That's not true. All believable statistics I have seen show only very small number of deaths in age group 55 and lower. Outrageous claims require outrageous proofs, you need to volunteer your sources if you want to convince anybody that 55 and younger are large share of deaths. "From what I have heard" is not an outrageous proof on HN. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-se...

There's different ways of looking at statistics. Most statistics are about the death rates for infected cases per age group, which doesn't account for situations where elderly people are kept from coming into contact with the virus in the first place. Unfortunately, I'm unable to find good global statistics on absolute number of deaths broken down per age group. I have come across the claim I mentioned in response to…

Post by charwalker » Wed, Jun 24, 2020, 4:35 PM UTC

lbeltrame wrote: post #128

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I don't think for most people dying is the scary outcome, like you say it's very very unlikely for a healthy young person. But what is the odds that you survive but then require kidney transplant or lung transplant or have leave ICU only to face weeks or months of recovery. This latter bit is a unknown to me, so I don't know what my actual risk is.

> only to face weeks or months of recovery. FTR, this also happens with other respiratory diseases. You can also take quite a bit of time (months) to fully recover from "regular" pneumonia.