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Safari now blocks Google Analytics on sites, new Privacy Report feature shows

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Re: Safari now blocks Google Analytics on sites, new Privacy Report feature shows

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Sure, you can do that. Google Analytics is merely a free version of that service.

Free to you, the user pays with their data. This is apple giving the user the option not to subsidise the website operator.

Tracking (especially first party) is not some shadowy value extraction scheme. You need at least some data to improve your service and understand what brings traffic to your page.

Re: Safari now blocks Google Analytics on sites, new Privacy Report feature shows

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Sure, you can do that. Google Analytics is merely a free version of that service.

Free to you, the user pays with their data. This is apple giving the user the option not to subsidise the website operator.

The developer also pays. By giving Google their entire viewer/user base, so Google knows whom to target if they decide to create an alternative.

Re: Safari now blocks Google Analytics on sites, new Privacy Report feature shows

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Personally I am not at all concerned when my data is used for marketing. Instead, I like learning about products tailor-made for me. By privacy I understand not sharing data with the public or with the oppressive regimes when it may lead to harassment, firing or arrests of people. But using my data to sell me some watches or bike parts? I'm in.

The internet is used for more than shopping. Your searches should not be public domain. Your health records. Your location. The time you go to bed at night. Where your house is. How many children you have. When you’ll next be away from home on vacation. That you looked around on a dating website while married. That you’re gay in a country where it carries the death penalty.

Is this currently public?

I advertise on Facebook but I can't see anyone's searches or current location. Although I can target people who are interested in LGBT or people who have been to SFO recently. If they like my post, I can also see their name and photo.

That seems reasonable to me.

Re: Safari now blocks Google Analytics on sites, new Privacy Report feature shows

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Original commenter stated that > The Google Analytics beacon is still sent by the browser This is what I'd like some clarification about. Wether policy changed or if it is just a UI change is another subject. Do they actually block GA or not? And if not does the UI mislead users to think otherwise?

Original commenter here. They are not blocking GA. Apple's ITP affects both 3rd party HTTP cookies and 1st party JS cookies. There does not appear to be anything but a UI change between Safari 13.1 and 14, from my initial analysis. GA primarily utilises 1st party JS cookies. If you have GA on example.com then the cookie will be stored against example.com. On of these cookies stores a unique ID for you as a user. GA w…

Simo also has this[1] handy site, for tracking the impact of ITP and other browser cookie restriction schemes.

[1] https://www.cookiestatus.com/

Re: Safari now blocks Google Analytics on sites, new Privacy Report feature shows

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We run Matomo (formerly Piwik), and I recommend it. It's actually better than Google Analytics in some ways, and you get your own data. This makes deeper analytics easier and also helps protect user privacy since the data is held only by the operators of the site being visited.

Re: Safari now blocks Google Analytics on sites, new Privacy Report feature shows

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I've done a bit more reading. This is not as dramatic as it seems. First party GA is not blocked. Access to 3rd party storage may be blocked, but this would not prevent web interactions from being visible to GA.

What is the difference between First party and third party GA?

Re: Safari now blocks Google Analytics on sites, new Privacy Report feature shows

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I am running the new betas iOS 14, iPadOS 14, and macOS Big Sur.

I love this feature in Safari. You open a new tab or browser window and there is a message area letting you know what is being blocked.

I am sick and tired of large tech companies like Facebook, Google, Amazon, etc. making money off of my data with scant benefit to me.

Not to pick on Facebook and Google, but I only use them now (well, almost) for paid services. I happily pay Facebook for Oculus Quest hardware and entertainment. I happily pay Google for music, books, movies, and Google Cloud Platform (which I personally like much better than AWS).

Re: Safari now blocks Google Analytics on sites, new Privacy Report feature shows

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I've done a bit more reading. This is not as dramatic as it seems. First party GA is not blocked. Access to 3rd party storage may be blocked, but this would not prevent web interactions from being visible to GA.

Source?

Re: Safari now blocks Google Analytics on sites, new Privacy Report feature shows

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I've done a bit more reading. This is not as dramatic as it seems. First party GA is not blocked. Access to 3rd party storage may be blocked, but this would not prevent web interactions from being visible to GA.

What is the difference between First party and third party GA?

Strictly speaking, GA is always 3rd party (it would only be 1st party if/when its used to measure google-analytics.com which is not a user-facing domain). For measuring any other website, its 3rd party.

I believe that this would limit GA's ability to store data in cookies on my system (user or session-based attributes). GA could still create unique identifiers based on my user or session-based attributes and store those IDs on their own servers, then call them back up when I revisit the site.

I'm still coming up to speed on this, maybe someone with more experience could correct or clarify my statements.

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