I've been using Simple Analytics since day one so I can kick back and relax I guess
Safari now blocks Google Analytics on sites, new Privacy Report feature shows
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Re: Safari now blocks Google Analytics on sites, new Privacy Report feature shows
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, it's that Safari is blocking third-parties under the same policies that it laid out earlier.
Original commenter stated that > The Google Analytics beacon is still sent by the browser This is what I'd like some clarification about. Wether policy changed or if it is just a UI change is another subject. Do they actually block GA or not? And if not does the UI mislead users to think otherwise?
Original commenter here. They are not blocking GA.
Apple's ITP affects both 3rd party HTTP cookies and 1st party JS cookies. There does not appear to be anything but a UI change between Safari 13.1 and 14, from my initial analysis.
GA primarily utilises 1st party JS cookies. If you have GA on example.com then the cookie will be stored against example.com. On of these cookies stores a unique ID for you as a user.
GA will then send 'beacons' (GET requests to Google endpoint, with data passed in URL parameters) for pageviews and other events. Your unique ID is included in these URL parameters, which allows the various events from you to be joined up into a 'session'. That has not changed.
What ITP did previously (just over a year ago, I think) is limit the age of these cookies to auto delete after 7 days, meaning that if you leave a site for more than 7 days your new session won't be able to be joined up with your previous session. That is still the case.
If it is of interest I have a deck [1] that discusses this (link goes to the relevant section - skip to slide 71 if you just want to understand the ITP impact on GA).
I'll caveat this a bit - I've not done an in-depth analysis. The person I strongly recommend following for expert updates on this topic is (my friend) Simo Ahava [2] - he is an authority of GA and the impact of ITP.
[1] https://www.slideshare.net/TomAnthony/browser-changes-that-w...
Re: Safari now blocks Google Analytics on sites, new Privacy Report feature shows
#83Tag manager too?
I see Google Tag Manager in my list.
Re: Safari now blocks Google Analytics on sites, new Privacy Report feature shows
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
Weill, this only "works" for you if you trust google. Given multiple security incidents in the past I am certainly not one of those people.
What security incidents? Of all tech companies I'd feel most secure with Google being the stewards of my data.
Snowden. They were leaking a lot of data to the NSA and they didn't even know.
Of course, they upped their game since then, but their sheer size will always make them an interesting target and they have to fail only once.
Re: Safari now blocks Google Analytics on sites, new Privacy Report feature shows
#85This is pretty awesome. All browsers should do this with malware.
I get that people like statistics, but if you share it with a third party, it can safely be condemned.
Re: Safari now blocks Google Analytics on sites, new Privacy Report feature shows
#86I have no love for Google Analytics, but as a small-scale publisher, I have serious questions about what tools can replace it: 1) Which analytics can a website employ that is not geared toward enriching the analytics platform developer by violating site visitor privacy? 2) Do those analytics mechanisms have any kind of aftermarket, such that third-party developers integrate it into publishing platforms that publisher…
I've been very happy with Plausible.io for my dinky little blog. It has all the information I need, and isn't as intrusive as GA.
Re: Safari now blocks Google Analytics on sites, new Privacy Report feature shows
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
Weill, this only "works" for you if you trust google. Given multiple security incidents in the past I am certainly not one of those people.
What security incidents? Of all tech companies I'd feel most secure with Google being the stewards of my data.
If google makes you feel more secure that doesn't mean it's secure. Feeling secure perhaps works for you but if we would assess how they deal with our data they would be quite far from pool of companies we can trust with data.
And that's only based on what we know currently from security incidents.
Re: Safari now blocks Google Analytics on sites, new Privacy Report feature shows
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
What security incidents? Of all tech companies I'd feel most secure with Google being the stewards of my data.
Snowden. They were leaking a lot of data to the NSA and they didn't even know. Of course, they upped their game since then, but their sheer size will always make them an interesting target and they have to fail only once.
Thank you. I am purposely avoiding convo to be channeled into discussion of this or that incident - those who want to dig into the matter they can find plenty and draw their own conclusions.
Re: Safari now blocks Google Analytics on sites, new Privacy Report feature shows
#89If that's really the case, 3rd party analytic service can still work by taking over the traffic from the service domain, then proxy back the traffic to the web server, somehow like cloudflare.
Re: Safari now blocks Google Analytics on sites, new Privacy Report feature shows
#90Suggestion: the access logs your web server collects are enough for basic analytics, and if you are curious for more, you can manually instrument your site a little. You don't need to give Google the power to spy on your users.
Here's another suggestion: Learn how to configure Google Analytics properly. https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/1011397?hl=en "If all [data sharing] settings are OFF, your Analytics data is only used to provide and maintain the Analytics service."
The fact that that does not default to 'off' is quite telling.