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Google Blew a Ten-Year Lead

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Re: Google Blew a Ten-Year Lead

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Photoshop->Figma :D that's hilarious!

Why? I guess it's because Figma has fewer features, but if OP used PS for web/app design, wouldn't this be fair?

esp because no one serious in our field has used photoshop for web design in almost a decade

Re: Google Blew a Ten-Year Lead

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No kidding. Early adopter of gsuite for domains (work and personal email). The google home devices CANNOT get your calendar from your google calendar. My Alexa device can easily. The thing of stuff just stagnating and no care to scrub the rough corners is crazy. They have some things they keep on improving. I think youtube is there (after the dumped plus thank goodness). Chrome seems to be moving along nicely. I used…

You can even get locked out of your google account by uploading old cartoons on youtube you thought were old enough to not care.

So tell me again why I would use google products when they are all so interlinked that one affects the other? No thanks

Re: Google Blew a Ten-Year Lead

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I've switched to Brave and duckduckgo. They are evil and I try avoid them at all costs. AMP is a good enough reason.

Why would you switch to brave but not firefox? Genuinely curious given the amount of shenanigans they have pulled out and said oops. Most recent one - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23442027

What would you suggest, Firefox? Mozilla has had their own set of black eyes

https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/16/16784628/mozilla-mr-robo...

Re: Google Blew a Ten-Year Lead

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I'm starting to think Google (probably Facebook too) scoops up top talent simply to deprive potential competitors (e.g., startups) of the resources they would need to challenge them. Actually having something for them to do is secondary.

I have believed this for a very long time. Both Google and Facebook are well known for hiring top talent at top dollar and then putting them on projects that are far below their ability level. It takes that talent off the market.

Yea, hard to believe great engineers would be happy that way. They apparently can't even have side/personal projects to scratch that creative itch if the day job isn't providing enough challenge. But leaving or doing a startup would result in a big drop in pay (at least initially). Easy to see how burn-out happens under those conditions.

Golden handcuffs, I suppose.

Re: Google Blew a Ten-Year Lead

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No kidding. Early adopter of gsuite for domains (work and personal email). The google home devices CANNOT get your calendar from your google calendar. My Alexa device can easily. The thing of stuff just stagnating and no care to scrub the rough corners is crazy. They have some things they keep on improving. I think youtube is there (after the dumped plus thank goodness). Chrome seems to be moving along nicely. I used…

> The thing of stuff just stagnating and no care to scrub the rough corners is crazy.

On the outset, you might think with such ridiculously high compensation there would be an expectation of quality, but I think that's an error.

Google operates as an ad-company that happens to employ ridiculous amounts of exhorbitantly compensated individuals to engage in market and technological research, particularly to open or expand markets for their ads.

They didn't create mail, docs, drive et al in order to create productivity apps, they created them to _open a new market_ for advertising, and to gather data for the same. They don't really care what content is in the browser so long as it is browser-based content the user consumes and not native apps. The more browser time spent, the higher the likelihood of being served Google ads, or providing Google with data, and similar.

Re: Google Blew a Ten-Year Lead

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love the cross-outs section youtube remains un-crossed, but it will be replaced by better offerings in core categories: vloggers, how-to / structured / lego, and music / covers love that this person is privacy-conscious but is making 'purchase' decisions based on the fact that the products just suck now

Privacy conscious yet uses Zoom. Hmm

Zoom is now offering e2e encryption for all users. What exactly do you have problem with?

Re: Google Blew a Ten-Year Lead

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I get the desire to abandon google services, and have done so myself for email and search, but there isn't much to this article. An old gmail account being noisy is probably more a function of it being old than it being a gmail account. I suspect he'd see a great improvement just starting a new email address. Airtable has some nice functionality, but I don't think it's head-and-shoulders above sheets and this article…

> An old gmail account being noisy is probably more a function of it being old than it being a gmail account. I suspect he'd see a great improvement just starting a new email address.

Hey's screener feature shows there's a lot of room to innovate on giving users control of their attention beyond the filters and labels that Gmail has deemed sufficient for more than a decade now. Setting up forwarding to use Hey as a read client for my incoming gmail email has shown me that my address being old and public is not the problem.

Inbox had bundling that was a promising direction, but that seems to have been scrapped when they shut that client down. I'm not a tinfoil hat person and don't really mind being tracked, but it doesn't surprise me that a company that makes its living off monetizing attention would never lead on giving control of it back to users.

Re: Google Blew a Ten-Year Lead

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I am getting tired of these google articles. I know how this will go, users will pat themselves for using duckduckgo, open street maps, firefox and fastmail anytime now.

I've never met anyone who uses OSM. I have just shy of 500 edits on OSM because I kept going to use it, finding it didn't have what I was looking for, and making improvements. It would be nice if there was a viable alternative to Google Maps. Apple Maps is apparently not too bad, but I'm using Android and Linux these days.

well, I use osmodroid. I am sure you can find many here. I do want to contribute more after I have other things sorted. Wish you didn't have to worry about being poor.

I agree with you that HN is a bubble which is what I meant by my comment. We need to do something to take it mainstream than patting ourselves here over and over again. Talk about how ways we can do that. I don't like google articles because we waste time giving them feedback rather than to all the cool open source projects that deserve it.

Re: Google Blew a Ten-Year Lead

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I'm sure these alternatives work for some, but I really don't find "Hey" a suitable alternatives to Gmail, nor "Notion" to Google Docs. I think the innovation and updating in those Google products has stagnated a lot, but they're still better for actual work and business than the new hip things.

If your “actual work” is designing documents for printing on dead tree paper, then sure. If your work is modern digital-first collaboration there are way more effective choices these days.

> If your “actual work” is designing documents for printing on dead tree paper, then sure

I would reckon 99+% of most people's use cases for something like Google Docs falls into this category.

Re: Google Blew a Ten-Year Lead

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Google Docs/Sheets is pretty crappy compared LibreOffice. But its collaboration features are really good and everyone has a Google account, so working together remote works like a charm.
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