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Most employees of NYT won’t be required back in physical offices until 2021

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Post by scarface74 »

papito wrote: post #276
scarface74 wrote: post #239

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I quit my job and found a new one because my company was forcing us to come into the office to "collaborate" -- even though for the most part only the team leads are in the US and the rest of the dev team is India. My team was in another state. I was already halfway thinking about another job because of the open office that was a mix of developers, QA, customer service managers, and implementation folks that were alw…

Collaborate. All you would do is sit at your desk in a mask and freak out every time someone walks by you.

2nd part. My wife works for the school system as a bus driver. My new job was always designed to be remote and it pays enough more for me to "retire my wife". We decided that it wasn't worth the risk or the headache for her to go back to work. She's already started a new business/hobby as a virtual fitness instructor when school let out early and the gyms closed.

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Post by nautilus12 »

waltherg wrote: post #274
Loughla wrote: post #5

Meanwhile, my employer has said zero remote work once the state transitions into the next phase. They want to be "fair" to everyone, including those who have positions that cannot be performed remotely. So, you have a co-morbidity? Nope. You have no childcare suddenly? Nope. It's startling how stuck in the 1980's some people are. Just absolutely astonishing.

I've heard two C-level guys with two separate German SMEs say that the only part of their workforce that hadn't handled remote work well was middle management. The people doing the actual work were happy WFH and simply getting stuff done. Senior management / C-level types were content seeing sales figures and general output from afar. Middle management struggled because they had a hard time judging work estimates for…

Maybe more of a statement about the necessity of middle management..

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Post by nafix »

kanox wrote: post #184
jkaptur wrote: post #173

Ask HN: do you make any distinction between "working from home" and "working from home during a pandemic"? I see a lot of people arguing that WFH is the new normal, citing long reopening timelines, their own preferences, increased productivity, Twitter's policy change, etc. But just a few years ago, IBM and Yahoo radically curtailed their WFH policies, and they made (what seemed to me to be) pretty credible arguments…

Personally I can't wait for this to come back to normal: being inside an office for 9 hours every day helps me be productive and focus.

Same here. I live in a 950 square foot apartment. I can't stand being in the same space all day long. I need a change of space, and I actually enjoy working in the company building. It's a very modern work space.

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Post by BurningFrog »

TigeriusKirk wrote: post #265
BurningFrog wrote: post #51

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For some of people, probably more than you'd expect, work is pretty much the only social contact.

I see this comment in every one of these discussions, but finding new venues for social contact is a fairly simple adjustment to make once you accept that it's necessary.

Depends on your social skills.

Don't assume everyone is as gifted as you are.

And even so, if half your waking time goes away as an opportunity to socialize, that's a big opportunity cost.

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Post by radomysisky »

aphextron wrote: post #266

I've been trying recently to wrap my head around what life is going to be like from here on out. Where do we go? Things will never be the same again. Remote work will now be completely normal, that's for sure. But how do we get back to living our lives? Fundamental assumptions I've had about the things I've wanted to do in life are now basically no longer an option. Will Silicon Valley no longer really be a "thing" a…

There is no going back. The "normalcy" won't return to big western cities. Take a few, e.g. NY, London, Seattle, SF, Paris. Each of these cities were already crippled with homelessness. They're all so expensive that even a six figure income is barely enough to scrape by. They were all decimated by COVID. And now they've all been thrown into weeks of civil unrest, further exacerbated by local leadership stoking, rather than extinguishing the fire.

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Post by rightbyte »

TigeriusKirk wrote: post #260
conanbatt wrote: post #183

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If you are with the kid you are not working

Worked fine for centuries. We have been living in a historically abnormal time.

Millenia is the proper magnitude I believe.

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Post by holidayacct »

That's good for their sysadmins and softwar engineers. They love to raise anxiety levels and create ambiguity interpeters (people who start believing there is meaning in people and objects around them) in NYC. Yes, this is a real thing... Don't ask for details, the short story is someone discovered they could exploit people with genes for paranoid schizophrenia to make them anxious and afraid to the point they look for meaning in things around them.

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Post by Y-Bopinator »

Leherenn wrote: post #280
asdfman123 wrote: post #263

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I feel like American society is obsessed with safety and the value of individual lives, which has never made sense to me but I go along with it out of respect. However, when your actions have a x% chance of killing someone, and you can mitigate it with reasonable precautions... ad what value of X do you go along with? There's a disconnect there. Either people are really bad at math and science, or they do not care ab…

Why doesn't it make sense that people do not want to die (generally)?

If I would die for my startup, surely my employees would too

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Post by jrockway »

Spooky23 wrote: post #258
jrockway wrote: post #229

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We are talking about wired performance here. I worked on the CPE team for Google Fiber, and indeed, WiFi performance is something that we spent a lot of time on and never got perfect. The average ISP using off-the-shelf CPE doesn't stand a chance. I fear that the CPE is not the problem in my friend's case, and the ISP is just aggressively oversubscribing, and so nothing can be done. Switching to the business plan won…

That's unfortunate. With COVID wfh, I've definitely heard alot of horror stories about local ISPs, especially with time of day based issues. (10 & 2) seem to be high-disruption periods. Where our folks have gotten engaged, 30/35 times it's wireless issues. One thing that I would offer is for your friend to try to get input from neighbors in a rough proximity. I did have an issue a few years ago with Time Warner Cable…

I like the idea of surveying the neighbors. We will try that next :)
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