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Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

#61
I'm not entirely sold on the design, but at least it will make macOS look a bit more consistent, up until now there have been little pockets of "old UX" like Finder, Mail, etc. and "new UX" with the Notification Center, News, etc.

Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

#63
post #52

I was really hoping they'd take some time to address Catalina's glaring issues — its slowness, bugginess, just general sloppiness — and instead they did the opposite. Honestly, every time Apple has done anything with the Mac the past couple of years, they've screwed it up. The infamous keyboards that they doubled-down and then tripled-down upon (I have personally had five keyboard replacements). The way Catalina send…

It’s possible they will do both. Fixing bugs isn’t really keynote worthy, so hopefully there’s a ton of stability fixes behind the scenes.

Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

#66

I mean, 'beautiful new design' is subjective here. I know it's the headline - but it's a press release. This is an ad.

We've changed the URL from https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2020/06/apple-introduces-maco..., which is a corporate press release.

If there's a better URL for discussing this, we can change it again.

Edit: it looks like https://developer.apple.com/design/human-interface-guideline... is probably a better URL for discussing this, so we'll change to that from https://www.apple.com/macos/big-sur-preview/.

Edit 2: since https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23606052 posted that and is now on the front page, maybe it's better to just let the discussion pick up there. This thread is pretty generic. Perhaps an article with more detailed information will lead to a more interesting discussion.

Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

#67
interesting. I'd love to give the new macOS a try, but I don't have any apple hardware. Does anyone know the process for downloading the macOS .iso so I can bring it up under VMWare?

Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

#68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nah, despite what they said in the keynote this is a smaller visual change than Yosemite.

I mean, it is literally macOS 11. That's what it said in the About This Mac screen on the presentation.

Whoa, I missed that! Thanks.

Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

#69

The word is out that this is macOS 11. Personally, I can't figure out why they didn't just drop the `10.` part and call it MacOS 16.

> why they didn't just drop the `10.`

Because they know their chickens - or rather their frogs.

Mac users are their loudest and most conservative customer sector, and have feared for years that OSX was going to be effectively taken over by iOS. Any big move would have had to face a wave of negative comments and would risk going down in flames. So instead they take things one step at a time - tweak here, tweak there, common icons, common services, Catalyst, we drop an X this year and major rev next year...

The jump you mention will inevitably happen, because in practice it has already happened internally with the yearly matched-release cycle. I predict sometime in the next few years you will have iOS NN + ipadOS NN + macOS NN released at the same time. It makes sense. It just couldn't be done right now because the priority is to keep existing Mac users on board. Frogs must be boiled slowly.

Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

#70

I just love the changes they did to the menubar. Adaptive background and extra padding on the menu items are both great changes I don't like the new dock design. Maybe they'll change it back to the old dock if the feedback is vocal?

Lots of extra padding everywhere which makes me think a touchscreen Mac is coming out soon. The extra padding is out of character for Apple designs unless they need the space for your fingers to not mash more than one item at a time.
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