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The Importance of India

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Re: The Importance of India

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India is like a thousand different things heading in a thousand different directions. And those vectors change from day to day. There is no control in such a system. Only an illusion of control.

Its as good as looking at two hurricanes and saying well this hurricane is heading towards us, so we better "support" the other one and maybe cool shit will happen.

It makes an engaging story though.

Re: The Importance of India

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I was just replying to the text I quoted, buddy. Additionally, blaming all of today's problems of India on "slavery", just like they do with blacks in America, is baseless and patronising.

Churchill killed over a million Bengalis. This history isn't that old.

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Re: The Importance of India

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But India is still a Semi Slavery society. The untouchables, anyone? The Hindu caste/social grouping system tells millions of people that they are contaminated and their fate is doomed upon birth. This is the most powerful racist/slavery/brain-washing machine that the human being has ever made, no? It is so hard to believe such brutal system still exist in human society. Yet, the country enforcing this claims to be t…

India is striding away from these practices. The ground reality is quite different today, unfortunately, the outside world has this impression from historic books or articles about India which are largely outdated now. There is very little information on the internet regarding the improvements and the shift of the young generation here in India away from such practices.

One needs to be completely blind to make this heartless claim. Are you being sarcastic or something?

https://scroll.in/topic/5593/caste-crimes

The above list is a sparsely updated list of caste crimes in India. What do you mean casteism is outdated? A dalit and a brahmin are equal in this society?

If so kindly show us a place where its the case!

This is the PRESIDENT of the country being shoved upon entering a temple! https://www.news18.com/news/opinion/opinion-the-jagannath-te...

So, kindly stop lying

Re: The Importance of India

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>India currently punches below its weight on the world stage due to slow economic development: 30 years ago, its GDP per capita was similar to China’s, but is now 5x lower. However, if India were to enter a period of similarly high growth over the next 30 years as China has for the past 30, it would quickly become one of the most powerful countries in the world thanks to the scaling factor of its immense population.…

Can you please stop posting flamebait to HN so we don't have to restart the rotating ban-wagon game?

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: The Importance of India

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>India currently punches below its weight on the world stage due to slow economic development: 30 years ago, its GDP per capita was similar to China’s, but is now 5x lower. However, if India were to enter a period of similarly high growth over the next 30 years as China has for the past 30, it would quickly become one of the most powerful countries in the world thanks to the scaling factor of its immense population.…

May I know how many years your grandmother was kept as a slave and abused ? Indian experienced it for 200+ years. People (Americans dare I say ?) have no problems accepting blacks are behind whites on most development indices EVEN TODAY because of slavery and oppression, but somehow can't extend the same logic to former colonial countries like India. Recent economic hardships of a particular class has threatened demo…

Please don't feed the trolls. The site guidelines put it this way: "Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead."

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https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html#cflag

If you post like this, you're perpetuating a nationalistic flamewar, which is just as bad as starting it. If people simply flagged the firestarter it would fizzle out.

Re: The Importance of India

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Is this a meme? Have you actually spent time in India? Caste based discrimination is illegal, so the country isn't "enforcing" any of it. In fact, there are several measures to counteract discrimination (like reservations, which is a whole other topic). This just seems like a poor, uneducated opinion for the likes of HN.

Woah dude. This is so funny. A low caste guy was shot dead last week for entering a temple. https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/17-year-old-dalit-b... A man was made to drink urine for loving a girl from upper caste. https://www.thelede.in/governance/2020/05/22/in-caste-crime-... Why are you doing a 'not all men', 'i have black friends' thing here? Anyone can google for these things and figure out the truth. If…

I don't think I'm doing anything close to what you're suggesting, except merely saying caste system isn't a state policy enforced by the government. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist in the society.

> Why are you doing a 'not all men', 'i have black friends' thing here?

> If you're a brahmin then please stop talking for the victims of your very own system.

This is not a level of discussion I want to engage in. It's neither informative nor productive.

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This. This is so true. India can never be a superpower until we are born inequal at birth! There will be growth only in a society which has some sort of equality. Anyone can look at the amount of upper castes in positions of power, land ownership share and executive positions in the country. You have to compare it with the population distribution among castes and you'll see the inequality immediately. The main proble…

I wonder if this was also part of the reason Buddhism didn't become the predominant belief system in India.

Yes, Buddhism cannot be tolerated by Brahmanism. Its simply outside the caste system that removes power from Brahmins.

PS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Buddhists

EDIT: https://medium.com/@ArainGang/hindu-persecution-of-buddhists...

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> India has all the problems of a democracy without much of the benefit. It's more likely that India becomes a CCP style country than stays a democracy. What is the basis for this? People have been predicting fall of democracy in India for decades (especially in the West), but nothing of that sort has happened. The closest incident was the state of emergency under Indira Gandhi in 1975-1977. India successfully recove…

Having one-party rule for 60 years is no democracy. You don't have a democracy when the state controls all the TV media. > What is the basis for this The basis for this is the level of grinding poverty in India, live in a Indian slum for a year and then come back to me, and spew the virtues of "democracy" vs economic freedom and rights. Poverty is organic propaganda for extremism and communism.

India has news channels castigating the govt everyday. Wire, NDTV are 2 examples.

Attempts to bring a constitutional amendment (NRC, CAA) which discriminated against 1 religious community was vehemently opposed and stopped. People took to the streets.

How many political parties does the beacon of democracy in the world have ? How does such an example of democracy end up choosing between a tyrant and a senile ?

Authoritarianism and right wing leaders are on the rise around the world. India is also fighting the same challenges.

Poverty and lack of education are primary reasons of corruption, India is growing organically like a democracy of its size should, fighting the challenges it has.

The only reason India has a voice against China is because of its Nuclear capability, had it relied on the goodwill of the west, India would be bowing to China like other ASEAN countries.

China is at par with US today because of over dependence of the latter on the former. The US can continue to enable a authoritarian, non democratic power, or support a country which believes in its democratic values in becoming its ally against China and stabilize the world.

What do you think will happen to democratic values of the world when China reigns supreme ? (A Uyghur would like to say Hi!)

Re: The Importance of India

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This is true in the case of manufacturing based economy, which world is currently now majored in. But with knowledge driven economy coming into picture, Having a huge population has any advantage? First world countries certainly have head start in this case, who are already attracting best brains from across world ( universities and companies) So, India will retain the importance only if it can sustain current brain…

Most of the "knowledge driven economy" is bullshit imo. They're busywork that allows societies that already have a lot of wealth to distribute it to their middle and upper class. People like HFTs don't create nearly the same amount value as their income justifies.

It's interesting to note that India's 7% gdp is from software and tech related exports. Knowledge driven economy is not a myth in the case is india

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Woah dude. This is so funny. A low caste guy was shot dead last week for entering a temple. https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/17-year-old-dalit-b... A man was made to drink urine for loving a girl from upper caste. https://www.thelede.in/governance/2020/05/22/in-caste-crime-... Why are you doing a 'not all men', 'i have black friends' thing here? Anyone can google for these things and figure out the truth. If…

I don't think I'm doing anything close to what you're suggesting, except merely saying caste system isn't a state policy enforced by the government. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist in the society. > Why are you doing a 'not all men', 'i have black friends' thing here? > If you're a brahmin then please stop talking for the victims of your very own system. This is not a level of discussion I want to engage in. It's…

Good try there. After you're done with the jokes, you can read the persecution faced by the current PRESIDENT of India.

https://www.news18.com/news/opinion/opinion-the-jagannath-te...

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