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Re: I tried to cancel Virgin Media broadband contract

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When I cancelled my home braodband contract a while ago (because I was moving), I eventually ended up with a debt collector after me because they had kept billing me. They had also disconnected me, connected someone else at the same property with the same cable, billed them and been paid by them, so they were not only billing me after I had cancelled, they were billing twice for the same connection. I tried csalling their customer services to sort it, they were no help. Eventually one of their agents admitted there was nothing they, or anyone else I could call with a publicly available number, could do.

(Edit: I forgot, I had also sent recorded delivery mail about it, but got no response).

I eventually got it resolved by finding the number for the CEO's secretary or someone, and harassing them about it until they got it sorted.

Now, the same thing has happened with Virgin Media Business at work (I cancelled because it was always going down, including the PSTN phones, the service was awful and we no longer need it - we had it before I joined, they have been billing us for months after we cancelled).

Worst ISP ever.

Re: I tried to cancel Virgin Media broadband contract

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For those in the US: https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov When I had an ongoing problem with an ISP that they claimed resolved multiple times in the past, all I had to do was say I was on this website and my issue was immediately escalated and fixed in no time.

For Australians:

https://www.tio.com.au/

Don't be afraid to use the TIO. ISPs get away with way too much crap here, and you'll find all your problems (I'm looking at you Telstra) are magically fixed extremely quickly once the TIO are involved.

Re: I tried to cancel Virgin Media broadband contract

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I’ve tried to cancel my virgin media subscription twice (because it’s too expensive), and each time was upsold a more expensive package. I explained this to my wife, who laughed at me, then the same thing happened to her.

Once you politely say you want to cancel, I suggest not answering their questions and to only repeat the word "cancel" over and over until the other person gets the point.

Definitely don't let them run their script and mess you around.

Personally, I tend to start any call with a customer support person with something like "Hello, I'm calling about an existing account, would you like the account number?". Almost invariably, they will say yes and then do a couple of checks to confirm my identity for data protection purposes.

At this point they know exactly who I am, and they probably ask why I'm calling. If I'm asking to change or cancel something, I state that immediately, so now they have a record of both my identity and my request.

By now, I'll also have a pretty good idea of whether I'm talking to a human being who is interested in helping me or some call centre automaton who's just going to be awkward and stick to a script.

If they then try to give me the run around, I just repeat that I've informed them of my details and my wish to change/cancel, if necessary state that I'll be cancelling payment authority accordingly, and then tell them I'm ending the call.

If possible, I'll also keep a recording of the call (which is legal in my country) but at the very least I'll make an immediate written record of the time of the call, who I spoke to, and what was said.

Re: I tried to cancel Virgin Media broadband contract

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I remember once seeing a commercial for an 'online virtual credit card' website/company? Quick online search tells me there are many providers out there.

As far as I know you can create virtual credit cards on the fly and use them to pay. So you could have one with which you pay your Streaming Subscription, one with which you pay for Cable, et cetera and their pitch was exactly this: You can destroy the virtual credit card and there is no fear of any fees whatsoever, so when you cancel some subscription or something...

I didn't follow up at that time, but made a mental note. Has anyone any experience with such services? It's funny that the 'fear' of cancellations not working and being charged 'unlawfully' was the main pitch in the commercial I've seen. Also funny: Cable and Mobile Phone providers are the same devils in the US than in Europe it seems ...

Re: I tried to cancel Virgin Media broadband contract

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Abuses such as this infuriate me, and I typically have a very low tolerance for them now. Any business that is causing trouble at my expense still gets one polite attempt to contact them via their preferred means and a reasonable chance to respond, but usually only one. I'm not hanging around on the phone for more than a few minutes or waiting more than a couple of working days for a substantial response to an online…

I imagine there could be a good business in the automation of the creation + address discovery + delivery of such letters. Like automated DMCA takedown notices, but C2B rather than B2C. “Pay a dollar to have our lawyers cancel a subscription for you.”

(Even better if you really do have a team of lawyers willing to work on contingency to take these sure-bet claims to court if necessary—just their existence would be an extra layer of deterrence.)

Re: I tried to cancel Virgin Media broadband contract

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I remember once seeing a commercial for an 'online virtual credit card' website/company? Quick online search tells me there are many providers out there. As far as I know you can create virtual credit cards on the fly and use them to pay. So you could have one with which you pay your Streaming Subscription, one with which you pay for Cable, et cetera and their pitch was exactly this: You can destroy the virtual credi…

Typically (in the US) the company that set up the recurring subscription that you pulled out from under them just sends your account to a collections agency. My credit card number changed and the New York Times did that to me.

Re: I tried to cancel Virgin Media broadband contract

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In the UK, use this: https://www.aa.net.uk/ I'm not affiliated with them in any way. They just have a great reputation for good technical knowledge, privacy, and support.

Can vouch, they've the most competent customer support I've ever dealt with and especially they respect technical customers.

Re: I tried to cancel Virgin Media broadband contract

#29

In the UK, use this: https://www.aa.net.uk/ I'm not affiliated with them in any way. They just have a great reputation for good technical knowledge, privacy, and support.

I've been a happy A&A customer for 15 years now. They're not the cheapest, but you get what you pay for. Excellent tech support, no nonsense attitude.

Edit: as an example, a bunch of years back I detected a routing loop. Emailed them the traceroute. Got a response back in a few minutes saying they were looking into it, and it was fixed shortly afterwards. So nice to be able to communicate with someone who can actually fix problems. The only other times I've had to contact them have been related to diagnosing problems in the underlying BT copper (not really their problem), and they were super helpful there too.

Re: I tried to cancel Virgin Media broadband contract

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I've not had working broadband for six months since moving house and signing up with Virgin. After explaining the issue to the fith rep for the third time one day I was told my 600m/s latency and packet loss was because I had a monthly usage of 500GB on a 100mb/s connection which was therefore five times as much as I'd paid for and that I needed to upgrade my package.

There's a reason these lot link your account to your credit rating and good luck escaping them even with a regulator judgement in your favour, because they'll just ignore that too.

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