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Re: Firefox 4 is here

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Post by mistermann »

eapen wrote: post #307
mistermann wrote: post #304

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I'm running version: 2011031901 This link: http://piro.sakura.ne.jp/xul/xpi/confirm.cgi?treestyletab.xp... gives me: Forbidden Installation You don't have a permission to install XPI package directly from other websites. You have to access this extension from the home page of itself. Am I doing something wrong?

What you have appears to be the latest version (similar to what I have). Weird that I didn’t see that warning though. Which OS are you on? (I am on a mac)

I'm on Windows 7 - 64

I imagine it will get worked out, but its not until something fails that you realize your dependence.

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Post by zpao »

decode wrote: post #305
rorrr wrote: post #260

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Yeah, I really miss Firefox URL keyword search. Too bad it becomes very slow as your history grows (at least in the older versions of FF).

That's definitely an issue, but there's a workaround if you want to do it. You need to VACUUM the sqlite database like this: http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2009/08/vacuum-firefox-databases-...

Firefox actually vacuums occasionally now (I think ~1/month for the places database)

Re: Firefox 4 is here

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Post by cnu »

IChrisI wrote: post #190
kristiandupont wrote: post #176

To everybody asking what Firefox has that Chrome lacks: The Awesomebar. I haven't seen it mentioned here but it's by far the thing I miss the most from FF (along with FireBug and TreeStyle Tabs). It practically replaces bookmarks for me because because it searches through the history. In Chrome it feels like I have to re-google everything unless I remember the exact url.

Personally, I like Chrome's address bar better than Firefox 4's. In Chrome, I can type g-m- to go to Gmail. In Firefox, it's g-m- - . It's a little thing, but it makes a difference to me. Can't live without Tree Style Tabs though. Firefox is my "heavy lifting" browser.

Yeah. In chrome I can type just the domain (without the www. part). But FF (even with the urlbar.autofill property set requires me to type with www.

And in chrome I can do ctrl+shift+pageup/pagedown to move the tabs around. FF doesn't allow that.

Minor irritant, but thats what makes me like chrome.

Re: Firefox 4 is here

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Post by zpao »

electrum wrote: post #134
mbrubeck wrote: post #19

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* Faster startup, more responsive, faster JavaScript with the new Jaegermonkey JIT. * New, less cluttered UI. * Built-in sync of bookmarks/tabs/history/passwords, fully encrypted on the client (unlike Chrome's sync which encrypts passwords only). * Sync your bookmarks, tabs, history, passwords, and form data to Firefox for Android! See also this thread for answers from various members of the Firefox team: http://www.…

Does it finally store passwords in Keychain?

The simple answer is no. But the more complicated answer (as a Firefox developer looked into doing this a while ago), is that Keychain is pretty limiting about what you can (easily) store. Our heuristics require that we store more information about logins (for example, the action url). It also restricts protocols, so we can't store password for chrome:// urls there.

Not to say it's never a possibility, but it's not just because we don't want to!

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Post by jamesr »

huntero wrote: post #296
barrkel wrote: post #202

Text rendering in Windows is significantly worse - sometimes it's blotchy (random characters seem to have more weight than others) - particularly here on HN, and inter-character spacing is inconsistent; at others, the anti-aliasing looks overdone, and text looks blurry and over-smoothed. I had Firefox 3 configured such that the main menu, URL box, navigation buttons etc. were all on the same toolbar - the menu bar. I…

I also had issues with blurry text while hardware acceleration is enabled. I assume it is due to the Direct Draw, but I don't see the same issue in IE9 w/ hardware acceleration enabled.

In IE9 h/w acceleration and Direct Write are controlled by the document's rendering mode. Hacker News renders in quirks modes and thus uses GDI. Try forcing the document to render in IE9 mode (open the F12 developer tools, hit Alt-9) and the text will look much closer to Firefox 4's. The page layout will also break a bit.

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Post by rhizome »

rorrr wrote: post #260
rhizome wrote: post #210

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This is a good point that I've only noticed recently. Address bar completion in Chrome is much much worse than in Firefox.

Yeah, I really miss Firefox URL keyword search. Too bad it becomes very slow as your history grows (at least in the older versions of FF).

Running 3.latest forever, I keep 4 months and it's as snappy as anything for what I use it for. I can get to the top 5 of my visited sites ordered by number of visits for each letter of the alphabet in one or two characters. While the history sidebar is exceedingly slow in doing searches, the address bar MRU is what they have nailed.

Re: Firefox 4 is here

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Post by SkyMarshal »

Just installed it on my netbook with Ubuntu Netbook Remix 10.04.

Motherfucking beautiful, guys, it feels like Christmas morning. Great work, keep it up. (And I'm so stoked the Vimperator plugin works on launch, kudos to that team too!).

Just working out the best way to install it side-by-side with 3.6 on my workstation, which I'll need to keep a while for web dev testing.

Re: Firefox 4 is here

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Post by SkyMarshal »

roadnottaken wrote: post #150
jlongster wrote: post #145

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That small of a nicety overshadows all of the other great things about Firefox 4? Also, the Firefox team is implementing that but it didn't make it into this release. You can find out all sorts of things they are working on at http://wiki.mozilla.org .

Down-vote, really? I was just giving my first impression, which was 'not better than Chrome' and 'looks clunky'. Also, Chrome has had that feature for over a year and in that time it's won a lot of praise from a lot of places. Granted, it's just one little feature that doesn't matter that much... but that's what people refer to when they speak of "polish" and "user experience" and I think that stuff matters more to p…

It's probably for the "only crappier". Makes you sound like an annoying Digg refugee. Read the guidelines at the bottom of HN, it covers both tone/language and complaining about getting downvoted.

Re: Firefox 4 is here

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Post by sid0 »

willheim wrote: post #306

I was REALLY hopeful for FF to make a comeback with 4. I had been a convert in the 2.X days and watched as it got bloated and slower throughout 3. Switched to Chrome in version 9 and never looked back. Then IE9 came out and was so much faster than before so I had hope for FF. Well, that hope has been quickly dashed. How? By mozilla's own demo page, the web'o'wonder. On my three year old machine it says my video drive…

Old graphics drivers usually have severe stability issues, so Mozilla blacklists them. You need to update to more recent ones -- anything after around June 2010 should do. Check out about:support for more information. (Note that if you're on Linux Mozilla only whitelists the proprietary nvidia driver IIRC, since all the open source drivers have issues.)

I don't think chrome has blacklisted anything yet, but from what I hear Google's looking at doing it.

In general, the problem is with your computer, and not with your browser or the demos.

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