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Re: Reuters killed their RSS feeds?

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Post by antpls »

dang wrote: post #85
jmsflknr wrote: post #71

Still showing up on RSS apps and populating new entries. https://imgur.com/a/GiE37KC

Ok, I'm going to downweight this thread for now. We can revisit the story if it turns out to be true. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

Hi dang. The feeds are _not_ populating for about 24h now, but any rss readers that fetched the last news from 24h ago will still show the last news from 24h ago (like in the imgur picture). With all my respect, I would agree to change the title to add a question mark, but not to downweight the fact that, intentionally or not, reuters killed their rss feeds for 24h now, and some of us are impacted, and they would like to share their experiences and opinions.

Re: Reuters killed their RSS feeds?

#102

Post by gsich »

ekianjo wrote: post #29
nathcd wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see this argument pretty regularly, but I don't understand it. Of course you can run ads in RSS feeds; you can put whatever you want in an RSS feed.

adds in RSS offer much less tracking, spying, etc... of course they are still ads, but that's not the same animal at all.

Entirely depends on what you post in the feed. Only a link to an ad driven website? Text directly from the advertisement company?

Re: Reuters killed their RSS feeds?

#103

Post by iso1631 »

jaredwiener wrote: post #99
iso1631 wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your site suggests it's based in San Marino, but it doesn't seem to cover any Italian news, nor does it seem to cover global news Your motto is "Just what's happening in the world." Scrolling down your (never ending) front page shows a single item of global significance - The highest number of coronavirus cases were reported to WHO in a single day yesterday

https://journali.sm/?topic=world

If you are building a site aimed at global residents (I assume you aren't aiming it as San Marino residents), then that should be the first page.

You have a "U.S. / National" link. It has no stories from my country, it's "Just U.S".

"Sports" is mainly American sports, which have niche following globally.

I'm afraid if I encountered this site I'd just put it down as just another America-centric aggregator making money off the backs of actual journalists

If you want to target american audiences that's fine, just don't claim you're global.

Re: Reuters killed their RSS feeds?

#105

Post by njkleiner »

epaulson wrote: post #62

I wish there was an OAuth for RSS, so I could subscribe to private/paid feeds through reader apps I only partially trusted.

There actually is, kind of.

The IndieWeb[0] community has come up with a protocol called AutoAuth[1] that solves this exact problem.

It's only a rough draft at the moment and it is built upon the IndieAuth[2] protocol (which, in turn, is based on OAuth 2), but I think the way it works is highly fascinating.

Here[3] is a an overview of how it works.

[0]: https://indieweb.org/ [1]: https://indieweb.org/AutoAuth [2]: https://indieauth.spec.indieweb.org/ [3]: https://www.svenknebel.de/temp/autoauth.html

Re: Reuters killed their RSS feeds?

#106

Post by forgotmypw17 »

minikites wrote: post #54
forgotmypw17 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is only a short-term effect. In response to things becoming more locked down, more and more "info liberation" projects will take root, and in the end the information will just gradually all leak out and end up outside the prison wall, in compatible, accessible formats. Then, eventually, even the sources of the information will switch to publishing it in the libresphere, because at that point the best aud…

Who will do the work to make this so and what is their motivation?

I think it will be hackers just like you and me, and our motivation will be making information accessible and the world a better place.

It may seem optimistic, but I'm also optimistic about what our reality "optimizes" for.

Re: Reuters killed their RSS feeds?

#108

Post by antpls »

marban wrote: post #27

99% of times it's just an error on their end and they eventually come back. Why: I've created popurls fame back in the days (now hvper.com) and I can tell you that this would be the first prominent case that a major outlet would eventually give up on offering a feed. RSS is alive and kicking and its death is just something the tech community loves to agonize over and over again.

My experience diverges from yours. Reuters feeds have been highly reliable over the last 3 years for me, with near zero downtime. There were at least one new entry per hour, almost 24h/24, but it can go up to 5 new entries per hour.

This is not a small "hiccup", this is a total blackout for almost a day now

Meta : HN doesn't let me downvote your comment, that doesn't seem very fair.

Edit : I invite everyone to look at webarchive : https://web.archive.org/web/20191029165306/https://www.reute...

The tools/rss page went offline October 29th 2019, which seems to indicate a planned shutdown of the RSS prepared months ago. Possibly, they delayed the shutdown with covid19 to now

Re: Reuters killed their RSS feeds?

#109

Post by dang »

antpls wrote: post #101
dang wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok, I'm going to downweight this thread for now. We can revisit the story if it turns out to be true. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

Hi dang. The feeds are _not_ populating for about 24h now, but any rss readers that fetched the last news from 24h ago will still show the last news from 24h ago (like in the imgur picture). With all my respect, I would agree to change the title to add a question mark, but not to downweight the fact that, intentionally or not, reuters killed their rss feeds for 24h now, and some of us are impacted, and they would lik…

Ok, but the problem is that then this becomes an "is down" story, as in "Reuters' RSS feed is down". Those tend not to be a very high quality category of submission, and it's unlikely that a story with that title would have shot to the front page.

Rather it's the sensational they-killed-RSS! aspect of the story that attracted attention, because it ties in with the generic topics of RSS-lamentation and web-nostalgia which are perennially popular here (plus the word 'killed' evokes indignation, which invariably attracts upvotes).

I'm not mocking those feelings—I share them! I just think there's a binary outcome here: either Reuters is truly killing their RSS, in which case we can discuss that once we know it; or (more likely) this was just a bug somewhere, and that is not SNI (significant new information) which could support a substantially different discussion. For more on SNI, see https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu....

Actually, the 'bug' interpretation does relate to the RSS-lamentation topic in a more subtle way. Software that's low-priority never gets as much maintenance attention. Perhaps someone made a change that broke the RSS feed, but no one noticed because they didn't test that.

Re: Reuters killed their RSS feeds?

#110

Post by gsich »

agaase19 wrote: post #31

There should be a way to integrate RSS with a payment model. People should be free to get content they want in any app of their choice based and still be able to pay for it.

There is. It's called Basic Auth and probably every HTTP library supports that.
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