> The company notes that the store has been operating for more than a decade and has never raised fees "We've never asked for more than a third of your income, what's the problem?"
That's absolutely hilarious and tone deaf at the same time. Lol.
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#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
I said dollars, not hours. I stand by that estimate. Right now there's no mobile-first onboarding flow. That's a completely new thing they'll have to build. They'll also need to update all of their code that checks subscriptions, handles dunning, etc., to now work with multiple billing providers. So yeah, it's going to take a lot of time, which is a lot of dollars.
Hundreds of thousands of dollars to do in app purchases. As an example, do you really think Marco Arment - sole creator of Instapaper before he sold it, The Magazine, and now Overcast spent “hundreds of thousands of dollars” just to create in app purchases?
If you're gonna use him for your argument you can listen to Marco's actual thoughts about this on the episode of Accidental Tech Podcast that dropped today, I won't spoil it but he's not on board.
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#123Apple has an abusive relationship with developers. I bet this harkens back to Jobs being pissed about jailbreaking and having to open up the platform. I think the culture still reflects that basic misunderstanding at the company. It's ironic, because it's the apps and developers that made the iPhone what it is - case in point, "There's an app for that," which they actually went and trademarked. https://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/mobile/10/12/app.for.that/inde...
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
No it doesn’t. https://www.macrumors.com/2018/12/28/netflix-no-more-itunes-... Edit: I usually don’t comment on downvotes but what the hell? https://help.netflix.com/en/node/25097 iTunes billing for Netflix is not available to new or rejoining Netflix customers. If you are attempting to create an account on an iOS mobile device, you can sign up on Netflix.com using a mobile browser and will be prompted to provide an…
https://imgur.com/a/t6AqwEx That's what the App Store shows me...
That's presumably to support users who have existing subscriptions. GP showed that they do not allow people to pay for new subscriptions.
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hundreds of thousands of dollars to do in app purchases. As an example, do you really think Marco Arment - sole creator of Instapaper before he sold it, The Magazine, and now Overcast spent “hundreds of thousands of dollars” just to create in app purchases?
If you're gonna use him for your argument you can listen to Marco's actual thoughts about this on the episode of Accidental Tech Podcast that dropped today, I won't spoil it but he's not on board.
I didn’t say he was onboard with the decision. I am not onboard with the decision. I said it’s a gross exaggeration to think a competent iOS developer couldn’t get in app purchasing working in an evening.
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#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
but that $99 charge is really a way to reduce trolls and scams. For regular us devs it almost meaningless, it blocks poor people in the west and third world devs.
If there were 10,000 developers on the App Store, their yearly membership fees come to a total of $990,000. That's pretty good revenue for troll/scam reduction. Now do the same math for the actual number of active App Store devs.
Apple's revenue in 2019 was 260.2 billion dollars.
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#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hundreds of thousands of dollars to do in app purchases. As an example, do you really think Marco Arment - sole creator of Instapaper before he sold it, The Magazine, and now Overcast spent “hundreds of thousands of dollars” just to create in app purchases?
evan_ is thinking in terms of "What would it cost to get a bunch of depressed FAANG engineers to code this as part of their day job?", and you're thinking in terms of "How many packages of instant ramen will a motivated entrepreneur have to eat while he codes this in his parents' basement?" Both valid perspectives IMO.
Well, Marco made a few million from the sell of Tumblr to Yahoo and he is one of three hosts on either the most popular Apple related podcast or the second most popular podcast. I don’t think he’s a struggling entrepreneur.
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#129Some people here seem to be responding to all of this inappropriately. The simple fact is that Apple is injecting itself as an intermediary in the payment process and extracting a preposterously oversized commission for no meaningful added value. And it's easy to see that Apple knows what they're doing is wrong. They strictly prohibit developers from signaling that there's an extra cost for purchases made through App…
>The simple fact is that Apple is injecting itself as an intermediary in the payment process and extracting a comically oversized commission for no meaningful added value.
Frankly anyone who says this with a straight face is being absurd. Apple's commission isn't for "payment processing", promotion, any particular API, or service they provide on their platform. That they do all of those things makes it an attractive place to develop for and sell your product, but it isn't the reason why they get to charge 30%.
They charge 30% because they've amassed 1 billion extremely valuable users who are willing to spend money on apps in their marketplace.
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#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
If there were 10,000 developers on the App Store, their yearly membership fees come to a total of $990,000. That's pretty good revenue for troll/scam reduction. Now do the same math for the actual number of active App Store devs.
Apple's revenue in 2019 was 260.2 billion dollars.
Yes and?