After GitHub CEO backs Black Lives Matter, workers demand an end to ICE contract

Post by monocasa » Mon, Jun 15, 2020, 8:01 PM UTC

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> I have. And you know what, civil rights laws did jack all to protect me. I'm not you, and I can't imagine what your situation is, but I'll bet whatever precious little civil rights laws that are enforced wherever you are has probably has helped you more than you know. Some people thought pandemic response teams are a waste of money, until a pandemic happened, then they realized perhaps there wasn't a pandemic previ…

> I'm not you, and I can't imagine what your situation is That's right. You don't know. > I'll bet whatever precious little civil rights laws that are enforced wherever you are has probably has helped you more than you know. So how can you even make that statement?

Post by nailer » Mon, Jun 15, 2020, 8:04 PM UTC

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d33lio wrote: post #156

I fully support steps being taken to reign in police and ICE, however it's still painfully ironic that CHAZ currently has been prioritizing enforcing borders, has roaming groups (peaceful and otherwise) ousting dissidents or those deemed as dissidents and verifying "citizenship". This kind of behavior in any form is troubling.

I went to the CHAZ to throw a frisbee with friends yesterday, and literally nothing you just said is true. Be aware that the Seattle Police Department is running an active disinformation campaign about the CHAZ, which is eagerly lapped up by people predisposed to believe the lies.

Post by dropofwill » Mon, Jun 15, 2020, 8:05 PM UTC

deogeo wrote: post #390

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>One should not discriminate on the basis of race, political orientation, gender, origin or religion. Refusing service is clearly a form of discrimination It looks like you're trying to imply that discriminating based on political orientation is as bad as as discriminating based on race, gender, origin or religion, but that's wrong. At least when it comes to the law, political orientation isn't a protected class. Rac…

You're correct regarding the law, but I wouldn't be so quick to claim it's not as bad. Suppose a business refused to serve union activists? Environmentalists? Feminists? Suppose many large businesses did so?

Post by dnissley » Mon, Jun 15, 2020, 8:07 PM UTC

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> They have a problem with their employer, and are being heard in the court of public opinion. Why is that "a bummer"? The court of public opinion doesn't have a good track record, for one. It's decisions are often based on fashion more than any kind of ethical principles. A classic exploration of this phenomenon is contained in the novel The Bonfire of the Vanities by Tom Wolfe.

I haven't read that book. Can you provide some examples supporting the claim that the "court of public opinion" doesn't have a good track record?

Post by markdown » Mon, Jun 15, 2020, 8:09 PM UTC

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What a bummer that workers are publicly demanding this, and (presumably) seeking press attention on it. I'm no fan of ICE – a very large percentage of my friends in the US are immigrants, and I generally want my country to be a welcoming one. ICE has certainly committed unethical and probably illegal acts (probably true of most federal agencies). But to expect that a _federal agency_ will be denied service from a pri…