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Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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Post by nogabebop23 »

sorenjan wrote: post #332

I actually wouldn't mind if the URL bar was replaced with a breadcrumb bar on some sites, like news and forums. Imagine something like Example.com > Worldnews > 2020 > 06 > 14 > Big aquatic monster spotted outside of Tokyo or forum.example.com > Sport > Football > Spain > Real Madrid It could then work like in Explorer in Windows 10, where you can press one of the breadcrumb separators and see a menu with siblings, o…

While we often create a mental map between some sort of logical hierarchy and the segments of the url this doesn't have to be the case. A specific domain should be authority on this, not he general-purpose tool used to access it.

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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Post by yoavm »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #92
simonkafan wrote: post #27

Isn't this a good example of "feature creep"? I dont see any reason why it makes a browser more useful when the URL is partially hidden. It reminds me of a company which developed a product which was more or less done. So the SWE manager and the product manager made up new (pretty useless) features just to tell their bosses the devs are busy and the team must stay intact.

To try and think of an upside for the user, it might help people detect phishing by making the domain name more prominent. I've seen phishing sites like support.google.com.8n.cn where the right side (the most important) just disappears into the /path. Though this attack is even more brilliant on mobile devices that truncate the right hand side and leave with you with "support.google.com...". Aside, I encourage fellow…

sounds to me like "support.google.com.8n.cn" would still show up as "support.google.com..." on mobile, even when Chrome hides the URL, wouldn't it?

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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Post by mysterydip »

shadowgovt wrote: post #391
mysterydip wrote: post #352

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you don't know the URL, you won't know if you're on an AMP site or the actual one.

Most users need to care about that as much as they need to care about whether the page is being vended from a fresh server response or local cache.

would you care if you went to mybank.com.sketchysite.us?

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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Post by nxpnsv »

shagabutdinov wrote: post #69
nxpnsv wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is weird not more people just respond this way rather than getting all worked up about it...

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1628162

I need more context to judge. But I am sure there occasionally are bugs in chrome too...

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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Post by Dylan16807 »

chrisseaton wrote: post #448
Dylan16807 wrote: post #443

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The person controlling the website is responsible for making www and non-www show the same thing, as well as making http and https show the same thing. (Redirects are fine.) A user's ability to affect something doesn't automatically mean it's their responsibility. I'm not making an argument about what should be shown right now, I just think your argument, based on what "might be different", is pretty flawed.

> The person controlling the website is responsible for making www and non-www show the same thing, as well as making http and https show the same thing. (Redirects are fine.) But there's no standard that requires this, that I'm aware of. Chrome are acting like there is, but I believe there isn't.

There's no standard that says you have to deliver the same data to anyone as far as I'm aware. It's still an absolute abomination if http and https are different sites, for example.

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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Post by earthboundkid »

kmfrk wrote: post #386
sorenjan wrote: post #332

I actually wouldn't mind if the URL bar was replaced with a breadcrumb bar on some sites, like news and forums. Imagine something like Example.com > Worldnews > 2020 > 06 > 14 > Big aquatic monster spotted outside of Tokyo or forum.example.com > Sport > Football > Spain > Real Madrid It could then work like in Explorer in Windows 10, where you can press one of the breadcrumb separators and see a menu with siblings, o…

On some sites, this could be done using breadcrumbs.jsonld: https://developers.google.com/search/docs/data-types/breadcr... Sadly not used everywhere, but maybe browser support would encourage its usage by site owners.

I’ve implemented this on my site. The pain in the ass is that Google will only sometimes show you the breadcrumbs, so it’s very difficult to tell if you encoded it correctly.

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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Post by zajio1am »

I would say that removing URL is also bad UI - if user sees that URL changes with navigation, then it is possible to guess that it can be copied and pasted to give a link for current page.

If the URL bar would offer full URL for copy/paste, but show only the domain, then the feature of full URL copy/paste is hidden.

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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Post by nxpnsv »

cryptica wrote: post #66
nxpnsv wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is weird not more people just respond this way rather than getting all worked up about it...

Passwords and bookmarks are in Chrome. That's the main point of friction. But I do re-evaluate Firefox from time to time. So far there has often been small things which made me reluctant. I think this feature is important enough for me to consider switching this time.

Is that all? I had no trouble migrating. Maybe it will be a pain going back and forth a lot. Add-ons/extensions might be more painful though. I found it was a good time to clean up and get rid ones i anyway no longer care about.

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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Post by cancerSpreads »

AsyncAwait wrote: post #399
cancerSpreads wrote: post #394

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The quality of Firefox on Windows as software is much to be desired. Due to slow loading, I'm considering whatever they call the Microsoft browser today.

Microsoft doesn't have a browser today, it's just a repackaged Chrome supporting the same Blink monopoly. I am honestly surprised Firefox on Windows is slow for you. I don't personally use Windows, but many on here say it works well there since v57.

I have tried to fix this slow loading problem. Happening on 2 separate gaming laptops with SSDs.

Maybe I don't know what to Google.

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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Post by goatinaboat »

Showing the full URL may detract from the parts of the URL that are more important to making a security decision on a webpage

I would like to see some examples of this because that makes zero sense. The only reason I can see is to “dumb down” the browsing experience to reinforce Google’s position as gatekeeper.

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