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Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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This might be harmful to github pages where it would hide the repository name. If they include this without offering an option to turn it off, I will quit using Chrome.

Yeah, I think having it intelligently bold/highlight or perhaps reduce significant parts of the URL would go a long way and likely makes more sense as a next step.

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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While this might be useful for a casual user, hidden URLs are a huge problem for web developers. Asking for a screenshot from client is not enough, now I'll have to provide additional instructions how to copy/paste full URL when reporting issues.

Not to mention all possible problems with misconfigured servers when www and www-less domains lead to same website, but some script refuses to work on one of those. While it was easy to spot with just a glance at URL bar, now one has to do additional clicking or opening devtools.

Probably we are at the crossroads where developers need separate, not dumbed-down version of browser.

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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So Chrome is only showing the domain part now? Just like Safari has been for a long time? Personally I quite like it. From what I understand the main goal is to make phishing attacks more clear to the user, since this is ultimately only a thing the end-user can protect against. Removing the noise definitely helps for that. Having had it like this in Safari for a long time, I must say I greatly prefer this over the ol…

It's awful for navigation context. They could easily solve for the phishing problem by highlighting or underlining the domain name.

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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post #18
post #4

This might be harmful to github pages where it would hide the repository name. If they include this without offering an option to turn it off, I will quit using Chrome.

Also any of the many sites where content for different people is hosted under example.com/~username/content

Next step: an "education campaign" to tell people that that part of the web is "insecure". In fact you should only get any content from a handful of domains. And in non-net-neutrality jurisdictions, the ISPs will start offering packages that work with pre-approved domains only. And since it'll be enough for 90% people, it'll work.

I hope I'm just being alarmist.

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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post #12
post #5

So Chrome is only showing the domain part now? Just like Safari has been for a long time? Personally I quite like it. From what I understand the main goal is to make phishing attacks more clear to the user, since this is ultimately only a thing the end-user can protect against. Removing the noise definitely helps for that. Having had it like this in Safari for a long time, I must say I greatly prefer this over the ol…

Safari has an option to include the full URL. As a developer, I need the full URL so I turn on the option. If Chrome by some miracle actually goes through with this, I'll try to see if I can get around it (because at the end of the day, everyone uses chrome and chrome dev tools are by far the best).

Just use Brave. You can install Chrome dev tools on it.

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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post #52

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I switched to Firefox years ago and never looked back.

It is weird not more people just respond this way rather than getting all worked up about it...

Passwords and bookmarks are in Chrome. That's the main point of friction. But I do re-evaluate Firefox from time to time. So far there has often been small things which made me reluctant.

I think this feature is important enough for me to consider switching this time.

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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Isn't this a good example of "feature creep"? I dont see any reason why it makes a browser more useful when the URL is partially hidden. It reminds me of a company which developed a product which was more or less done. So the SWE manager and the product manager made up new (pretty useless) features just to tell their bosses the devs are busy and the team must stay intact.

They don't do this for the benefit of the user, but to benefit themselves. Its all about making the web into google lah lah land where they control everything.

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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I think they're already trying to force that at the network level instead of the browser level using signed exchanges. https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2018/11/signed-exc...

Signed exchanges are quite neat actually, they do not seem to depend on AMP at all. You could even use them to get arbitrary static resources hosted via IPFS in a seamless way.

For sure, just as AMP is also a neat technology that can be used by companies other than google.

But my understanding is that they intend to use signed exchanges specifically for their amp URLs, finally finishing their efforts of forcing people to go to google.com without them ever having realized it.

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I switched to Firefox years ago and never looked back.

It is weird not more people just respond this way rather than getting all worked up about it...

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1628162
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