You're an idiot if you bring that bullshit liberal elite attitude to work with you. You shitty little opinion stays home. Glad he got fired.
Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague
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#322Earlier quoted context omitted.
Politics by definition cannot be personal. It's the practice of resolving conflict within society; if you don't interact with society, there is no politics possible. (Note: this doesn't mean I agree with the behaviour shown in this case - nobody says politics between colleagues must be done over Twitter.) (edit: sad downvotes without actual logical counterpoint are sad.)
Politics at the workplace should be kept personal. Politics between colleagues should not be done at all .
I disagree. With that outlook, we would never have had the social movements that changed Europe for the better in the XIX and XX century. In modern terms, stuff like BLM influences who your colleagues are, how you treat them, and how you react to their demands for fairness.
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#323I have no problem with this. If Facebook is a private company that could use its monopoly power to censor people and ban them arbitrarily, certainly it is a private company with the power to end relationships with employees who disrespect and harass their colleagues.
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#324Earlier quoted context omitted.
Politics by definition cannot be personal. It's the practice of resolving conflict within society; if you don't interact with society, there is no politics possible. (Note: this doesn't mean I agree with the behaviour shown in this case - nobody says politics between colleagues must be done over Twitter.) (edit: sad downvotes without actual logical counterpoint are sad.)
Politics at the workplace should be kept personal. Politics between colleagues should not be done at all .
> Politics between colleagues should not be done at all.
Hear, hear.
In fact, it's an age-old addage that politics and religion should never be discussion topics at work because of how easy these discussions can spiral down to hostile work environments due to assholes like this guy.
And this case is just yet another example reinforcing the addage.
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#325I'm so over this political posturing. I can't wait for ~2 weeks when everyone's going to go back to their lives like nothing happened (remember #OccupyWallStreet?). People that actually change the world don't need to advertise it on Twitter. I have friends that volunteer in Watts and Compton every other weekend (and have done so for years ) that don't need to share it on social media. I can't help but think that this…
Interesting that you choose Watts and Compton. Almost like you choose two random neighborhoods you believe to be disadvantaged. How exactly do your friends volunteer in this two places that just happen to show up in Dr Dre songs from the early 90’s?
First, he clearly says his friends chose. Second, is it not good enough that they're doing good deeds with any disadvantaged people? Third, these friends may a host of reasons to only return to a couple of places - they may have built relationships with the local residents, for example. And fourth, is every place mentioned in a hip hop song now "privileged" or something?
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#326Earlier quoted context omitted.
They could be privately supportive of Black Lives Matter, donate to bail funds, spread the word under anonymized accounts, etc. But they might also work/live in a deeply conservative office/neighborhood. Forcing their hand at going public with their support could get them fired, or get their ass kicked the next time they go to the bar or get pulled over by a cop. And "find another job, then" isn't always practical, e…
> They could be privately supportive of Black Lives Matter... Of course they could. This person didn't claim anything to the contrary. The complaint was not about the webmaster's personal beliefs, but rather about the webmaster's decision in their capacity as webmaster. > Forcing their hand at going public with their support could get them fired The request was to change the website of an open source project, not for…
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#327Not a single comment in this thread supports the employee.
Sorry, too busy writing down everyone who doesn’t think “silence is complicity” just in case their resume comes by my desk someday.
HN crowd has lost my respect. Not from this instance alone. But as a culmination of years of inaction.
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#328I think a key phrase here is "he was dismissed for publicly challenging a colleague’s silence". In other words, he publicly harassed a colleague who (for what could be any number of perfectly valid reasons) preferred not to publicly state their beliefs. That would seem to me to be an eminently reasonable reason to fire someone. If you go around publicly harassing your colleagues to publicly state their political opin…
Bullying. It's just adult bullying. ...and there is an uncomfortable number of people that are ok with it because the offender happens to be on "their side" politically.
This is the decay of modern political discourse.
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#329Earlier quoted context omitted.
The phrase has some history. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_the_looting_starts,_the...
Is the history of that phrase commonly known? That long and detailed Wikipedia Article was only created after Trump said the phrase: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=When_the_looting_...
If Trump didn't know, I suspect that he had adopted the phrase from someone in his circle who does know - can imagine him thinking 'sounds like a catchy way of threatening consequences; I'm going to bust that out next chance I get.'
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#330> “Intentionally not making a statement is already political,” Dale wrote in the tweet No it’s not. And this reminds me of the Dictatorship of the small minority [0] from NN Taleb. There are small intolerant minorities who are extremely vocal on certain matters to the point their opinions resemble a dictatorship [0] https://medium.com/incerto/the-most-intolerant-wins-the-dict...
Assuming no mitigating circumstances for not speaking out, it literally is acceptance and tacit perpetuation of the status quo which is most certainly political. I'm not saying there were no mitigating circumstances nor condoning the person's behavior but they are clearly correct on that specific point. "It's not the violence of the few that scares me, it's the silence of the many." Martin Luther King, Jr.
I want to be free to choose whether a political issue deserves my action or inaction in a work setting.
So please respect (not you but people who make such statements) individuals who rightfully choose not to get involved.
There isn’t just the “right” way of thinking. Which is what exactly is happening right now. “Either you think and act as we do or you are an ass*ole.”
Pluralism of thought shouldn’t even be in question in the 21st century.