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Re: Every year I fill out this survey from Apple, for Apple developers

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Post by AlexandrB » Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 3:22 AM UTC

on_and_off wrote: post #157

Strongly agree with most of the points, but not all. Disagreements : - App updates. I think that the subscription model would be pretty good for apps actually if you could have a micro transaction system. Great quality apps are constantly maintained and often have recurring costs (API, servers, etc). Selling apps for a one time fee does not fit that well in this model. A nominal fee for app updates kinda solves part…

> Great quality apps are constantly maintained and often have recurring costs (API, servers, etc).

I stay the hell away from apps that don’t let me manage my own data, which excludes most apps that have recurring costs. Even so more and more standalone apps that I use are going subscription because of the lack of another way to deal with upgrades.

Re: Every year I fill out this survey from Apple, for Apple developers

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Post by saagarjha » Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 3:23 AM UTC

robenkleene wrote: post #142

etaioinshrdlu wrote: post #14

One nit to pick, Slack on iOS is apparently fully native: https://twitter.com/SlackHQ/status/931599784137363459 I think this shows, in my opinion, how little native vs. web/electron actually matters to overall quality. You can generally make a smooth, fast, bug-free app on any platform. Or not... I used to use the Android version and I was never quite sure whether it was native or not. I couldn't think of a way to te…

I wouldn’t read into that tweet because Electron doesn’t even support iOS, so saying they “do not use Electron” is equivalent to saying nothing.

It's native. Or at least it was last I checked, before they did their redesign.

Re: Every year I fill out this survey from Apple, for Apple developers

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Post by brokencode » Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 3:23 AM UTC

cancerSpreads wrote: post #122

whatshisface wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "don't call us, we'll call you" model already exists in the form of game consoles. Nintendo is probably the most restrictive in this way. If you don't have a pile of money for the development equipment, don't bother calling.

No surprise here. Apple and Nintendo are cut from the same cloth. Big marketing budget, medium quality product, high price. I do my part in capitalism by purchasing products that are quality.

Both companies are famous for the high quality of their products, but are also often criticized by some due to the specs of their hardware for the price. Is that what you mean by “medium quality”?

Because the easily quantifiable specs of a device are usually a very poor indicator of quality, and quality is much more nuanced in reality.

For instance, the Xbox has always had higher specs than same generation Nintendo devices, but does that mean the quality is better? The Xbox One has almost no significant exclusive games, whereas the Switch has a huge number of critically acclaimed exclusives.

Re: Every year I fill out this survey from Apple, for Apple developers

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Post by scarface74 » Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 3:23 AM UTC

jennyyang wrote: post #70

The only way we effect change is by ORGANIZING. Right now, Apple can do whatever they want because they pick us off one by one, and ignore us. Google does exactly the same thing. If we organize as a large enough group, they have to listen. I firmly believe what Apple does is anti-competitive and they need to be regulated firmly by the government. I also think Google and Facebook need to be firmly regulated by the gov…

Thought experiment: Let’s day that Apple banned an app by both Black Lives Matter and “Focus on the Family” and they both complained about it to the government. Which one do you think the government would be more likely to force Apple to carry?

It continues to amaze me that anyone wants the sane government more involved in technology whose leader wants to “shut down Twitter” and wants all of the data it can get to spy on citizens.

Re: Every year I fill out this survey from Apple, for Apple developers

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Post by saagarjha » Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 3:24 AM UTC

chadlavi wrote: post #156

saagarjha wrote: post #136

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Then you’re shipping every version of the app at once, I guess?

No. Let's say I'm on version 9 of my app and I release a new major version 10. I think I could use in-app purchases in a new pushed version 9.1 that allows all the people who already have the app to purchase the upgrade to 10. Everyone who buys the app brand new now gets version 10, without that in-app purchase to upgrade to 10.

Right, but if someone starts at version 3 they need to always be on version 3 until they pay…

Re: Every year I fill out this survey from Apple, for Apple developers

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Post by scarface74 » Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 3:33 AM UTC

zadokshi wrote: post #52

alexashka wrote: post #28

One day it'll dawn on people that we should provide infrastructure that guarantees safety and freedom, not walled gardens that provide safety and freedom only if it also happens to be profitable for somebody. There seem to be enough people who don't see this as self evident and are motivated to try and create their own walled gardens in the hopes of becoming the next rent seeker overlord. These types of posts never e…

We already have laws for this. Look up what “anti trust” is. The real question you should be asking is “why are anti trust rules not functioning properly” or why aren’t they being applied for this generation?

True. Why isn’t anti trust going after a company that is less than 50% of the market.....

Re: Every year I fill out this survey from Apple, for Apple developers

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Post by the_af » Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 3:44 AM UTC

toast0 wrote: post #119

whatshisface wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "don't call us, we'll call you" model already exists in the form of game consoles. Nintendo is probably the most restrictive in this way. If you don't have a pile of money for the development equipment, don't bother calling.

I don't think this is as true for Nintendo anymore. The switch store is full of tons of stuff. Maybe they're not letting everything through, and they certainly aren't letting everyone make physical games, but the digital store seems like it must not have a big filter.

I don't own a Nintendo console: what's a physical game and how does it differ from a digital game?

Re: Every year I fill out this survey from Apple, for Apple developers

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Post by wolco » Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 3:45 AM UTC

intopieces wrote: post #11

gonehome wrote: post #2

Even as just an app store user I find the ads for competitors extremely obnoxious. Search "Overcast" -> top ad is some crappy competitor (not even a good real competitor, but usually some sort of near-scam). It makes me think less of the competitor and Apple every time I see it, it also seems completely unnecessary. I obviously want the app I searched for. It seems like a feature entirely designed to trick old people…

Apple should wind down their ads system (iAd) entirely. Advertisements are antithetical to what Apple stands for - privacy, premium experience, doing the right thing for users. They should lower their cut to 10% (not to 20, as the article states) and start offering curated experience bundles like they do with AppleTV.

Lowering their cut is antithetical Apple. Apple should remain at 20% and perhaps go as high as google adsense. You agree it is a premium experience that comes at a cost.

Re: Every year I fill out this survey from Apple, for Apple developers

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Post by pier25 » Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 3:50 AM UTC

brutal_boi wrote: post #149

pier25 wrote: post #130

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I agree. I tried it recently for a couple of weeks and went back to Sublime.

Wtf. It really makes me wonder if we are in fact using the same thing at all? Started using couple or three months back for a relatively large C project (with large amounts of lib includes) and so far the experience has been really good. Then switched to remote ssh devel, still really good. What's these slugish/perf issues on vsvode all about? What am I missing?

For me it's because it could never really break the illusion I'm using a browser and that is annoying. I'm reminded of that on every little (or not so little) stutter.

I could totally work with VSCode but I just prefer the overall experience of Sublime.

Re: Every year I fill out this survey from Apple, for Apple developers

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Post by MintelIE » Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 3:59 AM UTC

sgerenser wrote: post #96

MintelIE wrote: post #20

I have simply stopped buying "apps" even though I am still an iOS user. Quite a few of my purchases have just disappeared over time. I moved to a newer device and they couldn't be installed. I'm not happy with Apple and I got rid of my modern Macs (still have 1/2 dozen SE/30s) completely, now I use Debian or OpenBSD. Apple is extremely tight lipped on what they're doing and where they're going, they will support and…

Send me an email if you’re willing to part with one of those SE/30s assuming it still works. I’ve been pining for a classic Mac to play with but the pickings on eBay are either all broken or really pricey.

They are part of my retirement fund.