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Re: Every year I fill out this survey from Apple, for Apple developers

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Post by wool_gather »

reeddavid wrote: post #62

I'm not an app developer, but I am equally frustrated as a user on several of Wil Shipley's key points: 1. Ads for competitors. Sure, show me ads. But don't replace my exact match with an ad that takes up the whole screen. As a user who searches for apps, I find this outrageous. If the App Store was solely an advertising network I would understand. But Apple takes a 30% commission! Get out of my way and let me find w…

On point 4, what you want (and I, as both a user and developer) still doesn't exist. The trial functionality that Apple offers is only for auto-renewing subscriptions. (It's not particularly flexible, either.)

There are workarounds, but nothing that's really built in to the App Store as it should be.

Re: Every year I fill out this survey from Apple, for Apple developers

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Post by rexf »

gonehome wrote: post #2

Even as just an app store user I find the ads for competitors extremely obnoxious. Search "Overcast" -> top ad is some crappy competitor (not even a good real competitor, but usually some sort of near-scam). It makes me think less of the competitor and Apple every time I see it, it also seems completely unnecessary. I obviously want the app I searched for. It seems like a feature entirely designed to trick old people…

App Store search results aren't very good. Instead of trying to improve the interface or results, they added app search Ads to monetize their poor search functionality. Also, the App Store has prominent ads for their in-house services (Apple Arcade apps).

Re: Every year I fill out this survey from Apple, for Apple developers

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Post by musicale »

unnouinceput wrote: post #86
lytedev wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it wrong of me to think "vote with your wallet" and don't buy an iPhone?

No. I do the same. When enough of us will do then they'll listen, but by then will be too late. Until then this crap will continue.

I assume you're rocking a GNU/Linux smartphone then? ;-)

Or did you just go for a feature phone, or a vintage Blackberry/webOS/Windows/Firefox phone? (rip)

Re: Every year I fill out this survey from Apple, for Apple developers

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Post by saagarjha »

lytedev wrote: post #79
jennyyang wrote: post #70

The only way we effect change is by ORGANIZING. Right now, Apple can do whatever they want because they pick us off one by one, and ignore us. Google does exactly the same thing. If we organize as a large enough group, they have to listen. I firmly believe what Apple does is anti-competitive and they need to be regulated firmly by the government. I also think Google and Facebook need to be firmly regulated by the gov…

Is it wrong of me to think "vote with your wallet" and don't buy an iPhone?

Yes, because the alternative is only slightly better in that regard.

Re: Every year I fill out this survey from Apple, for Apple developers

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Post by unnouinceput »

qayxc wrote: post #48
AtlasBarfed wrote: post #44

Why do app developers accept the app store... It is a amazing programmers organize so well for open source but can't organize for basic policy like resisting these ridiculous terms.

Serious question: how else would they be able to get their product into the walled garden that is iOS? It's basically play by their rules or be left out of the game entirely...

So leave them as well. And when enough will do this Apple will wake up, but will be too late for that.

Re: Every year I fill out this survey from Apple, for Apple developers

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Post by sgerenser »

MintelIE wrote: post #20

I have simply stopped buying "apps" even though I am still an iOS user. Quite a few of my purchases have just disappeared over time. I moved to a newer device and they couldn't be installed. I'm not happy with Apple and I got rid of my modern Macs (still have 1/2 dozen SE/30s) completely, now I use Debian or OpenBSD. Apple is extremely tight lipped on what they're doing and where they're going, they will support and…

Send me an email if you’re willing to part with one of those SE/30s assuming it still works. I’ve been pining for a classic Mac to play with but the pickings on eBay are either all broken or really pricey.

Re: Every year I fill out this survey from Apple, for Apple developers

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Post by ericflo »

People who are worried about Apple's review process being arbitrary and onerous have no idea what's in store for them when VR/AR becomes more mainstream. Facebook's Oculus store is more of a "don't call us, we'll call you" and it's not getting better - they're actively training users to want this type of curation.

The smartphone era will quickly be seen as the Good Old Days where publishing was self-serve at all. Basically what I'm saying is, we need to nip this in the bud, or indie development is over.

Re: Every year I fill out this survey from Apple, for Apple developers

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Post by electricviolet »

p1necone wrote: post #60
NikolaNovak wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a lot of arguments one way or another - but the killer deal-breaker for many of us is the feeling of being held hostage: once you stop paying subscription, you typically don't get to "keep last paid version" - you loose application, and any files, data or artifacts that you created with it or would open/manipulate with it :-/ The other aspect is just how well we each feel we can keep track of and be disciplin…

I think the way Jetbrains does it is ideal - every chunk of 12 months you pay for with your subscription gives you permanent use of that version.

But this only works if you're releasing a new version every subscription period -- and in that case, it's equivalent to upgrade pricing.

Re: Every year I fill out this survey from Apple, for Apple developers

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Post by whatshisface »

ericflo wrote: post #97

People who are worried about Apple's review process being arbitrary and onerous have no idea what's in store for them when VR/AR becomes more mainstream. Facebook's Oculus store is more of a "don't call us, we'll call you" and it's not getting better - they're actively training users to want this type of curation. The smartphone era will quickly be seen as the Good Old Days where publishing was self-serve at all. Bas…

The "don't call us, we'll call you" model already exists in the form of game consoles. Nintendo is probably the most restrictive in this way. If you don't have a pile of money for the development equipment, don't bother calling.

Re: Every year I fill out this survey from Apple, for Apple developers

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Post by CharlesMerriam2 »

I buy an app on my iPhone once every couple months. I simply cannot find anything. I cannot buy.

The 'freemium' games hide.

I want:

- games that offer a single purchase, or a one time upgrade for full features without ads. Yes, some people will buy the 'bucket of coffee beans' upgrade. I won't. I don't want to search through twenty games that offer it.

- productivity tools that do something useful. My phone is stuck in 2001. Universal menu ordering? Teach me in two minutes? Manage my contacts to call people I haven't talked to in a while? Anything?

- privacy. Why does the Peet's Application in the background still get updated location services, draining my battery? When is the microphone on? Who is really calling me?

Seriously. A business model based on "the other players aren't doing well either" seems excessively fragile.

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