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Twilio Super Sim – Public Beta

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It is interesting to see how many telcos have failed at building IoT connectivity products that work. If you work for one of these, feel free to reach out.

We will be open sourcing a server (written in Go with a Vue frontend) that can run on a regular private APN to provide developers with self service management and connectivity to their NB-IoT and LTE-M devices.

If you want to have a look around you can take a peek at a beta of the software running at https://nbiot.engineering/

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#73
@Dang, I am seeing lots of valuable replies from @matjaxon from Twilio being shown as [dead]. I presume all these replies wont show up normally as most have their HN settings as default.

I guess this is happening because it is a new account. ( Likely to combat Spam ).

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No verizon support, unfortunately ... https://www.twilio.com/docs/iot/supersim/available-networks#...

Hi there, Matt Jackson from Twilio here. I’m the Product Manager for Super SIM. You’re right, we currently don’t have support for Verizon but we hope to be able to add it in the future. We understand that different developers have different connectivity preferences, so we designed our system to be flexible to adding new partners to the platform. As we continue to add networks, the networks of the future should become…

Vouched for Matt’s reply to overcome HN spam filter.

Matt, I’m not sure what the spam filter is latching in to, but you may want to try varying your opening line a little bit for each response.

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Could a potential use case be soldering these onto consumer electronics and phoning home telemetry even if the user doesn’t connect to WiFi?

A powerful use case here is at-home medical devices (think blood glucose monitors). With a SIM and cellular service, they can work anywhere, be agnostic to consumer WiFi issues (oops, someone changed the WiFi password!), and give "real-time" updates to a doctor or other health professional. Getting patient data has a huge barrier today and there is a ton of room for improvement, leaving the door open to better/more proactive care.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm frankly appalled at $0.10/MB. Are we still in the 90's?

I work for an IoT company, and I can tell you that data costs are high for IoT because the cost model is different. You purchase a 10GB plan from AT&T for your cell phone and they know that you likely won't use it all, so they can "oversell" data. With IoT, you have a much better handle on how much data you use so when you purchase a 10MB plan, they know you will use almost all of it. Additionally, IoT devices tend t…

ATT offers an "unlimited" plan on their website right now with 100gb of "premium" (read unthrottled) data for $85/mo (goes down to $50 if you want 4 lines).

Twillio is charging >10x the rate per-byte. ($1e-8 / byte compared to the $1e-9 that ATT charges).

I don't know about you, but I use more than 1/10th of my data plan every month.

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#79

Apologies if this is a dumb question - can I use this on a person phone for consumer use cases (voice/text/data)?

Hi there, Matt Jackson from Twilio here. I’m the Product Manager for Super SIM. This is definitely not a dumb question. In fact, all of us on the Super SIM team have really enjoyed reading this thread and learning what you have questions about! Super SIMs can be put into any device that has a SIM card slot, including almost any cell phone, but they are not designed to be a replacement for your cell phone’s SIM card.…

> it doesn't support traditional circuit network components used for traditional voice calling or SMS so these won't work like you expect.

Does this mean that the number associated with the Super SIM would be classified as VOIP and rejected by certain systems that require a "real" number. For example using the new SIM in any phone number verification system that rejects google voice and other providers.

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#80

What's the difference between an SMS command and just sending data? It says they charge 10 cents for a Mb but 5 cents for a data command. Can I just send a command that is less than a Mb and save money?

Twilio Developer Evangelist here. Our Super SIM Product Manager @matjaxon had his comments held up since he has a new HN account so I'm passing this along from him: "You could send the same information to and from your devices using either SMS Commands or data but it would likely cost you a lot more to use SMS Commands. While our prices start at $0.10 per MB, we bill you in bytes.

For example, if each time your device checks in you exchange 50 KB of data, you could do that 20 times for $0.10. You can only communicate with your device twice using SMS Commands at $0.05 per SMS Command. SMS Commands are often used as a way of configuring some IoT hardware solutions where you can set configuration values over SMS or to communicate with your device if it seems like something is going wrong with its data connection. It's an extra way of interacting with your device that may be deployed into the field thousands of mile away from you."

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