So, it's a VPN for cellular data, right?
How did you arrive at that? It's a SIM to enable IoT devices to connect to (almost) any available network. It is not cloaking the origin of the data, or even if it is, that's not why companies will buy this.
Twilio Super Sim – Public Beta
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Re: Twilio Super Sim – Public Beta
#62I worked on IoT projects for two major wireless carriers both trying to sell hardware integrated with data management. I think the idea was to sort of create value-added services on top of the dumb pipe. Both companies invested heavily in the projects and both failed badly. One of the major issues was just getting a dev setup using all the proprietary stuff involved. Onboarding developers was just one issue. Both sys…
Re: Twilio Super Sim – Public Beta
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
Was going to post the same thing. I wonder how the two compare. Pricing-wise, seems like Twilio has higher fixed but lower usage costs: https://www.twilio.com/docs/iot/supersim | Starting at $2 per active Super SIM per month. | Data Usage - Starting at $0.10 / MB. https://hologram.io/pricing/ | $1 per device per month + $0.38 / MB. Of course these prices depend on device volume. Twilio may be able to offer lower cost…
For hologram.io it's $1.50/SIM + $0.40/MB under 100 devices, but only $0.65/SIM + $0.33/MB over 5000
When we price custom for enterprise (i.e. specific countries, carriers, roll-out plan), the pricing becomes a lot more flexible. Should be seeing updates to that messaging soon.
Re: Twilio Super Sim – Public Beta
#64Is this intended for consumers or corporations? Could someone clarify the use-cases? It looks like it's $100+ for 1GB of data
_Is this intended for consumers or corporations?_
It's for developers! We try not to look at our offerings as being strictly for consumers or corporations, but rather for the developers who use them, regardless of where they work. We want any developer with an IoT idea to be able to pursue it, whether their team is one person or one hundred. (This is a common philosophy at Twilio and was the thinking behind offering pay-as-you-go pricing on nearly all of our products.)
_Could someone clarify the use-cases?_
Super SIM is designed for cellular IoT, where we often see use cases like fleet tracking, industrial field monitoring, or micromobility. But there are a lot of use cases for cellular, with new ones showing up every day. An interesting trend we’ve seen is the use of cellular connectivity for things like point-of-sale systems in places where you normally expect there to be Wi-Fi. By using cellular connectivity, these point-of-sale platforms are able to eliminate the variability that comes with each different customer’s Wi-Fi setup, offering their customers a much better out-of-the-box experience because their customers can simply turn on the system and get connected.
_It looks like it's $100+ for 1GB of data_
Our data prices start at $0.10 per MB but this pricing is meant to just get you started. We don’t expect any of our developers to scale up their IoT business at these list prices. Once you’re up and running, you can connect with one of our IoT sales specialists to discuss volume discounts.
Re: Twilio Super Sim – Public Beta
#65No verizon support, unfortunately ... https://www.twilio.com/docs/iot/supersim/available-networks#...
With Super SIM you can also have access to multiple networks at once. For example, if you’re connected to T-Mobile and move to an area where there isn’t coverage, your device can automatically switch over to AT&T. This gives you redundant connectivity too in case any one network or tower goes down.
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#67Could this be used as a sort of sporadic consumer phone service? For example signing up for services that require phone validation but want to protect your real phone for privacy. Activate the SIM, signup, verify, then deactivate. Repeat if they don't recognize your device or when you need to re-verify. After hardware costs you would be looking at $2/mo any time you needed it. Most other services I have looked at req…
I suspect the phone numbers will still show up as a voip number, which is probably be an issue for sms validation.
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#68Apologies if this is a dumb question - can I use this on a person phone for consumer use cases (voice/text/data)?
Super SIMs can be put into any device that has a SIM card slot, including almost any cell phone, but they are not designed to be a replacement for your cell phone’s SIM card. Super SIM is specialized for IoT: it doesn't support traditional circuit network components used for traditional voice calling or SMS so these won't work like you expect. However, any apps that use data instead for chat or VoIP calling, such as iMessage or WhatsApp, will work. Overall, we wouldn't recommend using your Super SIM as your regular SIM for your consumer cell phone, although some people at Twilio have put Twilio SIMs into their phones to see what this is like :)
Re: Twilio Super Sim – Public Beta
#69Curious as to how does this compare to "Programmable Wireless" and whether it supports calls and SMS? It's not clear whether it's an evolution of Programmable Wireless or something totally separate. I tend towards the latter because the documentation is separate between both offerings. Last time I tried Programmable Wireless it was very lacking. Calls were not supported on roaming at all (so I couldn't test it as I'm…
_How does Super SIM compare to Programmable Wireless?_
Super SIM is a separate offering from Programmable Wireless. Our first IoT connectivity solution, Programmable Wireless, was developed in partnership with T-Mobile, allowing us to connect to T-Mobile’s global partner network and run on top of T-Mobile’s mobile core infrastructure. For Super SIM, we developed our own cloud scale mobile core that allows us to connect with multiple partners, offering a comprehensive, guaranteed list of tier-1 networks for your devices to connect to. Moreover, with Super SIM, we’re able to extend control to you as the developer by letting you choose which networks your Super SIMs can and cannot connect to. This is really important for IoT use cases where your hardware may not be compatible with all of the networks that are available in a country. While we offer a lot of our networks at the same price, there are some that may be more costly but can offer you more redundant coverage or coverage in more remote regions. You can choose which networks work best for your use case and your customers and take control of your connectivity.
_Does Super SIM support voice calling and SMS?_
Super SIM was designed with IoT use cases in mind that primarily use data. You can use our SMS Commands API to send machine-to-machine SMS between your device and your cloud but Super SIM does not support sending or receiving SMS from other phone numbers. Super SIM does not support traditional calling such as with a smartphone’s native dialer.
_Why can’t I send SMS with an arbitrary originator number with Programmable Wireless SIMs? Is this a bug?_
This is the intended behavior. When you send a SMS from a phone’s messaging apps with Programmable Wireless SIMs that message gets handled by Twilio’s Programmable SMS APIs. You cannot set the from number on those messages to a phone number that is not a Twilio phone number that you own. This prevents number spoofing which while it has valid uses, it’s often used for SMS spamming which Twilio takes very seriously so this is a limitation to that feature.
Re: Twilio Super Sim – Public Beta
#70I've always thought it would be fun to make experimental hardware devices with this type of technology. An example: Build a solar-powered device that you stick up in a tree in a forested patch near an urban center where kids go and have bush parties/bonfires/etc. The device would include a text-to-speech synthesizer. It's dormant most of the time, but designed to activate when people are around it at night. As the "a…