Is it a problem? People don't need to be having sex. As long as people are happy.
I would also say people don't need to be having sex... even if they are unhappy about it.
Young U.S. men having a lot less sex in the 21st century, study shows
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#102They buried the lede here. > Sexual activity was largely unchanged among unmarried women, along with no notable decline among gay men, researchers reported. Basically sex is following the pattern of wealth. Men as a group aren't having less sex, instead there's a winner take all effect where a small number of men are having a lot of sex with a lot of women while a large number of men are having little to no sex. It'l…
I think this is exactly right. Apps like Tinder that normalized online "dating" (before the apps it was much less common among younger people) have allowed the "apex predator" men with good jobs/looks/personalities to have sex on demand with virtually unlimited numbers of women. This has also been made possible because a lot more women are now willing to be in non-exclusive sexual relationships at the beginning when…
> getting married and starting a family
This assumes people really want to do that. Children are too expensive unless you have a lot of resources already. I think if costs of basic living keep increasing the future is increasingly childless for many people.
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#103I wonder how much of an impact the pervasive availability of digital pornography has on this.
Definitely the pacifying nature of this, and sedentary lifestyle surrounding multimedia. Add marijuana in the mix, and you have even more lethargy.
Someone mentioned low economic status but that never prevented people from shagging. Low culture is its own culture. Impoverished countries have a higher fertility rate. By all the counts the average young man is not marked by "low economic status" yet still has less sex.
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#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't have data for this but I believe that legal polygamy is a big contributor to political extremism. Sexual frustration leads to inferiority complexes that result in aggression against the norm. As an example I see the Middle East where polygamy is not unheard of and the rise of the Islamic State or the Taliban. Would be interesting if anybody has data on this.
No. That extremism can be explained by oppressive sexual culture in general, not only polygamy (which is not as widespread as people think). You can’t even date. Many marry young for that reason.
You can't separate the factors like you're trying to do.
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#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think this is exactly right. Apps like Tinder that normalized online "dating" (before the apps it was much less common among younger people) have allowed the "apex predator" men with good jobs/looks/personalities to have sex on demand with virtually unlimited numbers of women. This has also been made possible because a lot more women are now willing to be in non-exclusive sexual relationships at the beginning when…
Some citations for your thesis below. To your last point, IMHO, you're going to continue to see a decline in the total fertility rate (US is roughly ~1.77 this year, lowest on record) as women shift from casual seeking in their 20s to relationship/nesting in their 30s and find the market for partners to be much smaller than they would've anticipated, while also nearing the end of natural fertility (fertility rates st…
> you're going to continue to see a decline in the total fertility rate as women shift from casual seeking to relationship/nesting in their 30s and find the market for partners to be much smaller than they would've anticipated
These women tend to be wealthier on average, and thus have access to various “artificial” methods for conception. Egg freezing is becoming mainstream.
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#106This is a widespread societal change that I think most people are completely unaware of. The majority of women are sleeping with the top 10% of men, sometimes only the top 3-5%, with the rest barely getting any at all. the sexual revolution was never about free love or sexual freedom, it was about womens rights to sleep with the few men they are all attracted to. The lower 80% of men instead saw their sexual freedom…
You would lose your job because that is some serious incel shit.
Incel shit? His comment is pretty accurate, just the truthish?
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#107Is it a problem? People don't need to be having sex. As long as people are happy.
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#108I would like to see marriage rates by age over time. Overwhelming amount of sex happens in marriage. If people are marrying less or marrying later, then I think that will explain this trend almost completely. If marriage rates are falling, I doubt it’s because of economic hardship (hundred years ago we had much worse financial outcome for people).
Holy crap haha. You're blind and living in a nice little bubble.
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#109They buried the lede here. > Sexual activity was largely unchanged among unmarried women, along with no notable decline among gay men, researchers reported. Basically sex is following the pattern of wealth. Men as a group aren't having less sex, instead there's a winner take all effect where a small number of men are having a lot of sex with a lot of women while a large number of men are having little to no sex. It'l…
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#110The conservative political commentator (and never-Trumper) David Frum has commented about this and the general decline in coupling between the sexes among young people. He believes that part of the reason comes from the economic hurdles facing many millennials; it's harder to get your own place or have a sense of financial confidence, so starting a family or embarking on a relationship may seem more daunting. He also…
Back in a day, quite some time ago, I started screwing around when I was 16. Most of the parents were quite conservative so they didn't allow kids to do it at their places where we, kids, lived, at least not to their knowledge. But we used every occasion to do it while they were at work. Or at birthdays and other home parties. In parks. At the graveyards. On roofs. In basements. Any place where we could get half an hour without people passing by.
I think I never had as much sex as when I didn't have my own apartment. The decline started after I finally got it, in my late twenties :)
So while I understand that not having your own place or financial stability can affect people's will to start a family, I tink it's too early to start to worry about it before at least late twenties. Until then, if people don't screw around on a daily, or at least best-effort basis, something is screwed with their chemistry.