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Young U.S. men having a lot less sex in the 21st century, study shows

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Post by ikeyany »

tharne wrote: post #12

They buried the lede here. > Sexual activity was largely unchanged among unmarried women, along with no notable decline among gay men, researchers reported. Basically sex is following the pattern of wealth. Men as a group aren't having less sex, instead there's a winner take all effect where a small number of men are having a lot of sex with a lot of women while a large number of men are having little to no sex. It'l…

> Given the push to eliminate virtually all traditional norms associated with sexual activity

I wonder if this is actually true. I also wonder what your idea of being less 'traditional' means. Having multiple partners, but going from it being done in secret (i.e. cheating) to it being consensual (i.e. swinging)? Going from a president getting a blow job in office to a president who is on his third wife, embroiled in stripper lawsuits while in office? Gay relationships being legal?

Re: Young U.S. men having a lot less sex in the 21st century, study shows

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Post by tootahe45 »

tharne wrote: post #12

They buried the lede here. > Sexual activity was largely unchanged among unmarried women, along with no notable decline among gay men, researchers reported. Basically sex is following the pattern of wealth. Men as a group aren't having less sex, instead there's a winner take all effect where a small number of men are having a lot of sex with a lot of women while a large number of men are having little to no sex. It'l…

> It'll be interesting to see what happens in 5-10 years

What is already happening in rich parts of Asia. Tons of pissed off women with no kids who want to raise your taxes.

Re: Young U.S. men having a lot less sex in the 21st century, study shows

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Post by krapp »

rootusrootus wrote: post #15
fuddlecarrion wrote: post #7

Is it a problem? People don't need to be having sex. As long as people are happy.

I think you answered your own question. If not, go visit a forum for incels and see how happy they are.

>If not, go visit a forum for incels and see how happy they are.

Incels are a cult of hateful, misogynistic extremists who consider mass murderers like Eliot Rodger to be heroes. Simply not having as much sex as one would prefer, or any at all, does not make one an incel.

Re: Young U.S. men having a lot less sex in the 21st century, study shows

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Post by dragontamer »

fuddlecarrion wrote: post #7

Is it a problem? People don't need to be having sex. As long as people are happy.

> Is it a problem?

I don't know. But its probably worth bringing up and thinking about it. Its certainly a problem in Japan, and a few other countries where birthrates have declined.

The USA is also a democracy, predicting future demographics is pretty important with regards to the future political will.

There's also the issues of global warming, over population, overfarming and overconsumption. So maybe a declining sex rate could be a good thing.

Either way, its worth thinking about the future and what these statistics could mean for the next generation of citizens.

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Post by vzidex »

mpfundstein wrote: post #28
vzidex wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Young man here. "Ladies first" is flat out weird to me, the only time I ever use it is jokingly with my girlfriend, sisters, or close female friends. I'm not sure if I'd go so far as to call it sexist, but it's an odd thing to say for sure.

its a nice gesture. whats the problem? back in Germany, only 10 years ago, women were super happy about it. now i am getting called a sexist. times change

Hmm, to me the problem is the question of _why_ a man would do that "nice gesture" for the woman. To me, if you don't have reason to be doing it besides "she's a woman", it smacks that the gesture is being done because she's inferior based on her gender (or at least, that's what's being implied).

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Post by Mizza »

tharne wrote: post #12

They buried the lede here. > Sexual activity was largely unchanged among unmarried women, along with no notable decline among gay men, researchers reported. Basically sex is following the pattern of wealth. Men as a group aren't having less sex, instead there's a winner take all effect where a small number of men are having a lot of sex with a lot of women while a large number of men are having little to no sex. It'l…

Incels call this "hypergamy": https://incels.wiki/images/thumb/c/c8/C57f84720fff59cf295616...

Although misogynistic incels are obviously abhorrent, I believe that they're probably right in their assessment of their own social status. It just seems like rather than trying to better themselves, they turn it into outward hatred.

I've also seen calls by right-wing thought leaders for "enforced monogamy," which obviously seems authoritarian, rapey and wrong. However I do think monogamy and commitment a good moral values to cultivate. Even though there's a lot of "slut-positivity" now, the people I know who live that way seem much less happy, fulfilled and stable.

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Post by seppel »

This article awkwardly dances around reasons why young men have less sex.

First it is "social media and electronic gaming", then the reasons "may also include stress of juggling work and intimate relationships, as well as the prevalence of other forms of solo entertainment."

But then, they notice that "[s]exual activity was largely unchanged among unmarried women, along with no notable decline among gay men, researchers reported." So everything said before seems kind of void anyway.

Obviously, the reasons must lie somewhere else. However, this is not explicitly stated.

Now they continue with huge jump: From sexual activities to relationships: "Given a preference for men of higher socioeconomic status and the larger number of college-educated women than men, some young men may find it difficult to form heterosexual relationships"

Well, maybe. But how does that connect to the first part?

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Post by vowelless »

I would like to see marriage rates by age over time. Overwhelming amount of sex happens in marriage. If people are marrying less or marrying later, then I think that will explain this trend almost completely.

If marriage rates are falling, I doubt it’s because of economic hardship (hundred years ago we had much worse financial outcome for people).

Re: Young U.S. men having a lot less sex in the 21st century, study shows

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Post by dj_mc_merlin »

fuddlecarrion wrote: post #34
tharne wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would say it is a problem, given that the average person wants romantic companionship, and usually children at some point. It's hard to get there if you aren't successfully dating.

The question wasn't dating , it was sex . You can be dating but not having sex. That's fine.

Outside of an extremely small minority, dating and sex are intrinsically linked.
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