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Young U.S. men having a lot less sex in the 21st century, study shows

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Re: Young U.S. men having a lot less sex in the 21st century, study shows

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Post by codezero »

tharne wrote: post #12

They buried the lede here. > Sexual activity was largely unchanged among unmarried women, along with no notable decline among gay men, researchers reported. Basically sex is following the pattern of wealth. Men as a group aren't having less sex, instead there's a winner take all effect where a small number of men are having a lot of sex with a lot of women while a large number of men are having little to no sex. It'l…

I can't tell from the article, but it sounds like they did not take into account wealth in their study, but are inferring a pattern based on other studies on wealth/sexuality, or am I missing something here?

One can't simply say "women prefer men with higher socioeconomic status" because it sounds right, and I'm not saying that this isn't studied somewhere, just that when making conclusions about a study, if that factor wasn't included in the study, we shouldn't assume it then is one of the conclusions of the study and start connecting dots with other studies just because it feels right.

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Post by rubicon33 »

kelvin0 wrote: post #9

I wonder how much of an impact the pervasive availability of digital pornography has on this.

Porn, Video Games, lack of a "tribe" / strong community, low socioeconomic status...

All are factors (IMO).

Porn - Relieves the sexual desire temporarily. Video Games - Distracts and occupies the mind Lack of tribe - Depresses, and isolates the individual Low Socioeconomic Status - Lowers ability to attract opposite sex, lowers confidence, etc.

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Post by nroets »

Over the study period, pornography became really easy to obtain. Isn't that the cause ? Men (we) no longer need to groom themselves, dress up, spend money on dates and deal with all the complications of relationships.

They (we) now have instant simulation within a few taps on their phones.

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Post by fuddlecarrion »

tharne wrote: post #21
fuddlecarrion wrote: post #7

Is it a problem? People don't need to be having sex. As long as people are happy.

I would say it is a problem, given that the average person wants romantic companionship, and usually children at some point. It's hard to get there if you aren't successfully dating.

The question wasn't dating, it was sex. You can be dating but not having sex. That's fine.

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Post by mpfundstein »

RIMR wrote: post #29
mpfundstein wrote: post #5

are we really surprised? last year a woman called me a sexist because i said 'ladies firsr' on the coffee machine. a friend got problems with hr becahse apparently he stared at some titties in the elevator lol. luckily i am married and had my fair share of partners. but nowadays i would be scared as hell to even take the first step in the club. i mean, i might easily become a toxic male sexual predator exposed on soc…

I think the cavalier attitude you have towards casual sexism and misogyny are actually part of the problem. I've never been scared of the dating scene because I can control myself and act like a civilized person - that means not being needlessly chauvinist or ogling women's "tits" while in confined spaces. Grow up. If you get called out for being unprofessional at work, you need to recognize that your lack of profess…

i never got called out at work dude. where did i say that? the coffee machine encounter was in a hospital.

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Post by hn_check »

tharne wrote: post #12

They buried the lede here. > Sexual activity was largely unchanged among unmarried women, along with no notable decline among gay men, researchers reported. Basically sex is following the pattern of wealth. Men as a group aren't having less sex, instead there's a winner take all effect where a small number of men are having a lot of sex with a lot of women while a large number of men are having little to no sex. It'l…

Who is going to make that push? The men aren't looking for multiple long-term partners, if they ever go that route at all. Sex without consequence and burden is the goal. Supporting and dealing with multiple families is the goal of few. Even one is pretty tenuous.

No one is calling for polygamy. Hit it and forget it.

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Post by TallGuyShort »

vzidex wrote: post #25
rootusrootus wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you answered your own question. If not, go visit a forum for incels and see how happy they are.

At the same time, people definitely can be happy without sex - various religious factions have been doing it for ages with vows of celibacy, and today there's a non-negligible "volcel" (voluntarily celibate) movement.

It can be done and result in happy people. It can also turn out that years later you have decades of sexual abuse victims coming forward years later.

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Post by mc32 »

acwan93 wrote: post #4

The Atlantic covered this recently too: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/12/the-sex... >I was told it might be a consequence of the hookup culture, of crushing economic pressures, of surging anxiety rates, of psychological frailty, of widespread antidepressant use, of streaming television, of environmental estrogens leaked by plastics, of dropping testosterone levels, of digital porn, of the vibrator…

So it’s really really a problem in Japan and to a lesser extent Singapore and SKorea, but there is a whole generation of guys who’re just not getting any and have little interest in getting any at all.

And at least in Japan there is a weird subculture of something I’d call “adult play dates” where you pay for someone to feign interest in you —I don’t even know what the purpose of that is.

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Post by maxerickson »

RIMR wrote: post #19

"The survey found that from 2000 to 2018, nearly one in three U.S. men aged 18 to 24 reported no sexual activity in the past year." I'm not sure I understand what they are measuring. This sentence is hard to parse. Did they ask people who were those ages during those years if they had gone an entire year without sex during that period? Did they ask people of that age slowly over the course of those 18 years and recor…

Here's the source article: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle...

So it's like the other reply states, ~1/3 respondents to various surveys reported no sexual activity in the year preceding the survey.

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Post by foepys »

vzidex wrote: post #25
rootusrootus wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you answered your own question. If not, go visit a forum for incels and see how happy they are.

At the same time, people definitely can be happy without sex - various religious factions have been doing it for ages with vows of celibacy, and today there's a non-negligible "volcel" (voluntarily celibate) movement.

I have never heard about vocel. Only about Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW), which, at least on reddit, were a women hating incel community.
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