The concentration camps and child prisons the US is operating presently are mostly in Texas and the southwest, so this won't have much meaningful effect on the situation.
California bans private prisons and immigration detention centers (2019)
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Re: California bans private prisons and immigration detention centers (2019)
#12@dang can you add 2019 to the title so people know this is an old article?
Yeah important to note the article is from 2019, and not in response to any recent events as you might assume.
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#13I can understand private prisons (which make up a small percentage of overall prisons). However, what will be the solution for people that come into the US illegally, if not temporary detainment?
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
hospitality
If we're going to have free movement it should probably be via a proper agreement, like in the EU. Not a mishmash of contradictory state and federal policies. And it should be mutual - if Mexicans and Canadians can live in the US, Americans should be freely allowed to live in Mexico and Canada.
We should also have standards like the European Union. And one of those standards should be that any country participating should not be run by warlords.
Re: California bans private prisons and immigration detention centers (2019)
#15Would love to see California ban sales of goods made at private prisons as well. Or at least disclose it on the packaging so consumers can make a decision.
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#16I guess this is nice, but I think the question of "private prisons" can become a bit of a distraction. Maybe they make things worse, but they're not the root of our problems. Consider that California state prisons were trying to save money by illegally sterilizing inmates as recently as 2010.
Here's a great headline to consider: "California Bans Sterilization of Female Inmates Without Consent". 2013. In the United States. Two thousand and god damn thirteen. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/womens-health/california-bans...
other links. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/07/09/200444613... https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/08/califo...
Re: California bans private prisons and immigration detention centers (2019)
#17The concentration camps and child prisons the US is operating presently are mostly in Texas and the southwest, so this won't have much meaningful effect on the situation.
Isn't California southwest? I mean it borders on Mexico and the Pacific ocean.
Or is "southwest" in American usage synonymous with Texas?
Re: California bans private prisons and immigration detention centers (2019)
#18I can understand private prisons (which make up a small percentage of overall prisons). However, what will be the solution for people that come into the US illegally, if not temporary detainment?
the solution is the people who wish to temporarily detain people should create systems that do so humanely...i.e.,
* without intentionally separating families as punishment
* without freezing/starving/killing/forgetting people
* without detaining the wrong people because of their skin color
The fact that people want/feel a need to do this does not create a requirement for them to allow anyone to do in in as slapshod a way as possible. The problem you state was created by ICE's behavior, not by California's concern for that behavior.
Re: California bans private prisons and immigration detention centers (2019)
#19I guess this is nice, but I think the question of "private prisons" can become a bit of a distraction. Maybe they make things worse, but they're not the root of our problems. Consider that California state prisons were trying to save money by illegally sterilizing inmates as recently as 2010. Here's a great headline to consider: "California Bans Sterilization of Female Inmates Without Consent". 2013. In the United St…
Wow that is awful. I didn't realize this was happening. Here's a link: https://www.nbcnews.com/health/womens-health/california-bans...
Also, to your point, private prisons only account for 8.41% of the prison population in the U.S. Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_prison#United_States
Re: California bans private prisons and immigration detention centers (2019)
#20I guess this is nice, but I think the question of "private prisons" can become a bit of a distraction. Maybe they make things worse, but they're not the root of our problems. Consider that California state prisons were trying to save money by illegally sterilizing inmates as recently as 2010. Here's a great headline to consider: "California Bans Sterilization of Female Inmates Without Consent". 2013. In the United St…
I disagree, private prisons are a moral hazard by nature. Pointing out a separate failure by state prisons is a straw man I think.