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Pinetab – 10.1″ Linux Tablet with Detached Backlit Keyboard

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Re: Pinetab – 10.1″ Linux Tablet with Detached Backlit Keyboard

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I noticed this has a removable battery, which makes this very interesting to me. What I'd like to know is if it will work with the battery compartment empty on AC power only. I'd like to have "smart" displays wall mounted around the house with dashboards on them. I've read about so many instances where people used wall mounted iPads and Android tablets where the batteries would swell after a period of use.

I went with raspberry pi + LCD. Even though there are many LCD options I recommend going with their official pi touch display, it just works without headaches. I did use their official enclosure, but it doesn't really seem to be well designed for wall mount (some 3d printing and magnets helped).

I think going with an android tablet is fine and headache free. I just don't like aesthetics of that solution.

Re: Pinetab – 10.1″ Linux Tablet with Detached Backlit Keyboard

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> What I'd like to know is if it will work with the battery compartment empty on AC power only. The Pinebook laptops can work without a battery while connected to AC, but not out of the box. A simple hardware mod is necessary to enable this, that's documented by Pine.

That is unusual. I have never had a laptop that would not work without a battery present.

Lenovos etc. don't care, but I've seen this first hand with some Acer and Asus laptops. It has nothing to do w/peak power consumption, that is a wholly different problem, of a different class of devices.

Re: Pinetab – 10.1″ Linux Tablet with Detached Backlit Keyboard

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I suppose the keyboard needs to be attached to operate? I use a Surface Book. I’ve been interested to discover that I would quite often like to have the keyboard continue to work after detaching the base, because when drawing on the device a keyboard is still useful for switching between tools, activating things, typing in precise values when necessary, &c. To be sure, a large part of this is just that I’m using apps…

It's got pogo pins, it looks likely to just be a pogo pin USB port down there? Pretty sure they'd mention if the keyboard was wireless. Honestly, I hate having a second battery to worry about charging: I'd much rather a keyboard just be a keyboard.

Re: Pinetab – 10.1″ Linux Tablet with Detached Backlit Keyboard

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Wow, I was ready to pull the trigger on this until I saw the $30 shipping.

They don't subsidize anything here, so yeah, cost of shipping is really the cost to take a box from China to your house, pretty much. FWIW, when I got my PineBook Pro, DHL was literally like overnight from Hong Kong to the US. I think if you consider it part of the cost ($150 for tablet and keyboard shipped), it's still a pretty good deal.

Re: Pinetab – 10.1″ Linux Tablet with Detached Backlit Keyboard

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> What I'd like to know is if it will work with the battery compartment empty on AC power only. The Pinebook laptops can work without a battery while connected to AC, but not out of the box. A simple hardware mod is necessary to enable this, that's documented by Pine.

That is unusual. I have never had a laptop that would not work without a battery present.

I have a couple of old ThinkPads that work but seem to throttle heavily, I've attributed it to need for better burst draw handling.

Also one of their older W models that will only run on battery if a standard 90W power supply is connected and will only charge the battery if the device is off. Running on external power is only supported with the 135W or (stock) 170W PSU.

Re: Pinetab – 10.1″ Linux Tablet with Detached Backlit Keyboard

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MBPs at some point switched to drawing power faster than it could be provided by the plug alone. Of course, you can't tell nowadays whether laptops will work without a battery, because most batteries are non-removeable.

I don't think I've ever seen that behavior with a MacBook Pro of any vintage -- and I've had an MBP of one stripe or another since at least 2007, using the date of the 2007 MacBook Pro gathering dust bunnies nearby -- except when I use the wrong power supply with it, e.g., a 13" MBP power supply with a 15" one, or my MacBook Air's power supply with any MBP now. I wouldn't doubt it's possible to draw more power than t…

I suspect that this is the reason why MBPs now refuse to boot on low battery. You used to be able to start up the machine when your battery was at 0% (as long as you were plugged in), but newer MBPs complain and don't boot up until you recharge to 10% or so.

Re: Pinetab – 10.1″ Linux Tablet with Detached Backlit Keyboard

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This is interesting to me because I'm in the market for a new tablet. Is this more of a hacker device (IR blaster, odd assortment of ports, full OS, etc.) or consumer? It should ideally pass the wife test...

Not a ton of ports, USB 2.0 Type-A and Micro-B, Micro-HDMI out, SD card. But there's an expansion card slot, which is pretty unheard of for a tablet. So you can add like an SSD or a LoRa radio or what-have-you.

Re: Pinetab – 10.1″ Linux Tablet with Detached Backlit Keyboard

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

MBPs at some point switched to drawing power faster than it could be provided by the plug alone. Of course, you can't tell nowadays whether laptops will work without a battery, because most batteries are non-removeable.

I don't think I've ever seen that behavior with a MacBook Pro of any vintage -- and I've had an MBP of one stripe or another since at least 2007, using the date of the 2007 MacBook Pro gathering dust bunnies nearby -- except when I use the wrong power supply with it, e.g., a 13" MBP power supply with a 15" one, or my MacBook Air's power supply with any MBP now. I wouldn't doubt it's possible to draw more power than t…

They just bumped the power adapter on the 2019 MBP up a little bit. I've seen people say that if they max all cores and leave it that way it will drain the battery even if it's plugged in. I haven't attempted that, and I've never seen the behavior under any other circumstance.
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