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Pinetab – 10.1″ Linux Tablet with Detached Backlit Keyboard

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Re: Pinetab – 10.1″ Linux Tablet with Detached Backlit Keyboard

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Post by JadeNB »

pinfisher wrote: post #29
zozbot234 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What I'd like to know is if it will work with the battery compartment empty on AC power only. The Pinebook laptops can work without a battery while connected to AC, but not out of the box. A simple hardware mod is necessary to enable this, that's documented by Pine.

That is unusual. I have never had a laptop that would not work without a battery present.

MBPs at some point switched to drawing power faster than it could be provided by the plug alone. Of course, you can't tell nowadays whether laptops will work without a battery, because most batteries are non-removeable.

Re: Pinetab – 10.1″ Linux Tablet with Detached Backlit Keyboard

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Post by chrismorgan »

deergomoo wrote: post #26
boogies wrote: post #12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii6lAjgfW3c If this functionality was demoed by Apple on a new $999 "MacPad Pro" there would be arguments over if it was the end of the PC and the beginning of the next generation of computing, a leap like the smartphone revolution. Edits: price, s/this/this functionality/ I took this out of context (sorry), it's a very pre-production device that has received a lot of work since then a…

Are we watching the same video? This is basically no different to what you get on any Windows convertible (though the tablet-mode interactions are closer to the iPad), except way, way jankier.

Nah, that’s way higher latency than my Surface Book (which is a much more powerful machine, but is also driving a 3000×2000 display) gets. That video is at 25fps, and exhibits latencies of 7–8 frames (~300ms) on scrolling a web page, and 9–12 frames (~400ms) on resizing windows. I can’t measure latency accurately on my device at present, but I estimate that I’m getting around 50ms of latency in both of those scenarios.

(Oh, I guess you were talking about the functionality, not the latency. Ah well, I’ll leave this comment up anyway.)

Re: Pinetab – 10.1″ Linux Tablet with Detached Backlit Keyboard

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Post by floren »

boogies wrote: post #16
NikolaeVarius wrote: post #3

How is touch screen on linux these days, I'm probably pick one up but can't imagine running UBports on 2GB ram. I would rather use i3/lighter DE + touch screen support for some GUI apps?

Someone's set up a sort of dwm-based DE on the Pinephone: https://sr.ht/~mil/Sxmo/

Thanks for this, this looks almost exactly like what I want in a Linux phone. I've found DEs like phosh far, far too heavy for the Pinephone.

Re: Pinetab – 10.1″ Linux Tablet with Detached Backlit Keyboard

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Post by djrogers »

boogies wrote: post #12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii6lAjgfW3c If this functionality was demoed by Apple on a new $999 "MacPad Pro" there would be arguments over if it was the end of the PC and the beginning of the next generation of computing, a leap like the smartphone revolution. Edits: price, s/this/this functionality/ I took this out of context (sorry), it's a very pre-production device that has received a lot of work since then a…

Uhh, that looks... Horrible. And I say that as someone typing this on a keyboard attached tablet right now - I love keyboard attached tablets, but that looks janky and laggy as heck.

Apple would be KILLED if they released anything with that much touch lag.

Re: Pinetab – 10.1″ Linux Tablet with Detached Backlit Keyboard

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

I bought one. The USB configuration sounds a bit sad. USB 2.0 Type-A and Micro-B is a very dated configuration, especially considering the PinePhone has a USB-C. But I am interested in seeing how the ecosystem comes together and the price is absolutely right for this thing.

Re: Pinetab – 10.1″ Linux Tablet with Detached Backlit Keyboard

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Post by chipotle_coyote »

JadeNB wrote: post #31
pinfisher wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is unusual. I have never had a laptop that would not work without a battery present.

MBPs at some point switched to drawing power faster than it could be provided by the plug alone. Of course, you can't tell nowadays whether laptops will work without a battery, because most batteries are non-removeable.

I don't think I've ever seen that behavior with a MacBook Pro of any vintage -- and I've had an MBP of one stripe or another since at least 2007, using the date of the 2007 MacBook Pro gathering dust bunnies nearby -- except when I use the wrong power supply with it, e.g., a 13" MBP power supply with a 15" one, or my MacBook Air's power supply with any MBP now.

I wouldn't doubt it's possible to draw more power than the adapter can give you if you're pushing the MBP full-bore, but I'm pretty sure that under normal power loads, this doesn't happen.

Re: Pinetab – 10.1″ Linux Tablet with Detached Backlit Keyboard

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Post by jjice »

Absolutely incredible for the $120 price point. If they release a PineTab Pro in the future with 4 (or dare I say 8GB) of ram, I'd be all over it. At that point, I could really start to be productive. 2GB is a bit limiting for the modern web unfortunately, but there is a ton of potential here. I'm considering buying one to use as my main machine for this next year at Uni. Taking notes in VS Code/Vim would be fine, but I could see some of my course load being hindered by the ram.

As a portable SSH machine, a kid's first computer, or a nice portable machine with a screen for hobby projects, I think this will be fantastic.

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