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Fremont Tesla workers tested positive for coronavirus days after plant reopened

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Re: Fremont Tesla workers tested positive for coronavirus days after plant reopened

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It would be great if people writing articles like this (I hesitate to call them journalists these days) could take the time to provide more context. According to the county dashboard, Alameda County had 2,564 cases on May 20, 2 days after Tesla reopened: https://ac-hcsa.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html... With a population of 1,671,000, that means about 0.15% of Alameda County residents had been diagnosed…

"Alameda County's Tesla to resume operations despite 0.15% infected"

Here is a more precise but still infuriating headline.

Re: Fremont Tesla workers tested positive for coronavirus days after plant reopened

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It would be great if people writing articles like this (I hesitate to call them journalists these days) could take the time to provide more context. According to the county dashboard, Alameda County had 2,564 cases on May 20, 2 days after Tesla reopened: https://ac-hcsa.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html... With a population of 1,671,000, that means about 0.15% of Alameda County residents had been diagnosed…

The original article is by a writer of the Washington Post. If this doesn't count as journalism, I struggle to find examples that do. The journalist spoke with two workers within the production facility. "One of the workers said a supervisor confirmed two positive cases to a group at the Fremont-based seat assembly facility" This is an example of just one supervisor confirming two positive cases. It is likely that th…

You mean Bezos Post? The newspaper owned by Jeff Bezos, towards whom Elon Musk very publicly shows no love whatsoever? It's like believing everything Bloomberg writes about Bloomberg. :-)

Re: Fremont Tesla workers tested positive for coronavirus days after plant reopened

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Washington Post actually have more details as to where this seat assembly facility is: The Washington Post: Tesla defied county orders so it could restart production. Days later, workers tested positive for the coronavirus.. https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/06/09/tesla-f...

We've changed the URL from https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/fremont-tesla-workers-te..., which points to this. Thanks!

Re: Fremont Tesla workers tested positive for coronavirus days after plant reopened

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I'm not sure. It would be good to prevent spread of disease. But also, Tesla's mission ( https://www.tesla.com/about ) is "to accelerate the world's transition to sustainable energy." This is a generational timescale business - in Musk's mind an extra 1.5% of population dying is probably worth it - especially if the alternative is Tesla dies. Edit - here's an interesting question - how many lives is accelerating the…

If we're so concerned about the Tesla factory to the point of contemplating shutdowns, how do we feel about the scenes of bars and beaches filled with people all over the US?

How do you feel about them? Transmission of a respiratory virus at a windy beach is next to impossible, and photos of beaches look a lot more crowded than they really are due to the compressive distortion of telephoto lenses. Transmission of respiratory diseases at a bar, indoors, where people are elbow-by-elbow and intentionally suppressing their own immune responses with intoxicants, seems a lot more possible.

Re: Fremont Tesla workers tested positive for coronavirus days after plant reopened

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It would be great if people writing articles like this (I hesitate to call them journalists these days) could take the time to provide more context. According to the county dashboard, Alameda County had 2,564 cases on May 20, 2 days after Tesla reopened: https://ac-hcsa.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html... With a population of 1,671,000, that means about 0.15% of Alameda County residents had been diagnosed…

The original article is by a writer of the Washington Post. If this doesn't count as journalism, I struggle to find examples that do. The journalist spoke with two workers within the production facility. "One of the workers said a supervisor confirmed two positive cases to a group at the Fremont-based seat assembly facility" This is an example of just one supervisor confirming two positive cases. It is likely that th…

> The original article is by a writer of the Washington Post. If this doesn't count as journalism, I struggle to find examples that do.

That's a fallacious appeal to authority if I've ever seen one. The Washington Post and most other newspapers publish plenty of crap in addition to serious journalism, and they aren't above publishing clickbait to drive ad revenue.

Re: Fremont Tesla workers tested positive for coronavirus days after plant reopened

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You could pick any large company that reopened and find instances of employees who have the virus. Singling out Tesla is good for clickbait, but why should the Tesla factory stay closed when bars and restaurants in California are allowed to open? This is the new normal. We can't stay in lockdown forever. Jobs deemed "non-essential" by white collar professionals comfortably working from home are pretty essential to th…

Restaurants and bars in specific areas with specific precautions are allowed to re-open. Musk re-opened his factory against the advice of local officials.

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Re: Fremont Tesla workers tested positive for coronavirus days after plant reopened

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The original article is by a writer of the Washington Post. If this doesn't count as journalism, I struggle to find examples that do. The journalist spoke with two workers within the production facility. "One of the workers said a supervisor confirmed two positive cases to a group at the Fremont-based seat assembly facility" This is an example of just one supervisor confirming two positive cases. It is likely that th…

> The original article is by a writer of the Washington Post. If this doesn't count as journalism, I struggle to find examples that do. That's a fallacious appeal to authority if I've ever seen one. The Washington Post and most other newspapers publish plenty of crap in addition to serious journalism, and they aren't above publishing clickbait to drive ad revenue.

What publication would you say does qualify as journalism in this case?

Re: Fremont Tesla workers tested positive for coronavirus days after plant reopened

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It would be great if people writing articles like this (I hesitate to call them journalists these days) could take the time to provide more context. According to the county dashboard, Alameda County had 2,564 cases on May 20, 2 days after Tesla reopened: https://ac-hcsa.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html... With a population of 1,671,000, that means about 0.15% of Alameda County residents had been diagnosed…

> Why the breathless article about 2 cases?

If I worked at Tesla and came to find out about positive tests in this manner, in an environment with what appears to be a more rapid return to work inclination, I might breathlessly express my concern to as many as would listen.

I don't find that offensive.

Re: Fremont Tesla workers tested positive for coronavirus days after plant reopened

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Almost certainly. Thing is, as countries develop, the birth rate drops off a cliff. Canada's already at 1.5 births per woman. The US is only slightly higher. As we make more robots, we'll make less humans. Society will be forced to become dramatically different.

We already have an abundance of resources, like food and land, yet we don't efficiently allocate them such that they don't go to waste, leave people hungry or leave people homeless. The only reason people without significant assets can access food or land is because they're able to trade their time for money. People who can't trade their time for money currently go hungry and become homeless. This is why I say that u…

i don't want to scare you man yet you've just basically invented the Das Kapital :)

Re: Fremont Tesla workers tested positive for coronavirus days after plant reopened

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post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The original article is by a writer of the Washington Post. If this doesn't count as journalism, I struggle to find examples that do. That's a fallacious appeal to authority if I've ever seen one. The Washington Post and most other newspapers publish plenty of crap in addition to serious journalism, and they aren't above publishing clickbait to drive ad revenue.

What publication would you say does qualify as journalism in this case?

It is not about the publication. Articles published by any publication, by any author, need to be evaluated on their own merits.
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