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Fremont Tesla workers tested positive for coronavirus days after plant reopened

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Re: Fremont Tesla workers tested positive for coronavirus days after plant reopened

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You could pick any large company that reopened and find instances of employees who have the virus. Singling out Tesla is good for clickbait, but why should the Tesla factory stay closed when bars and restaurants in California are allowed to open? This is the new normal. We can't stay in lockdown forever. Jobs deemed "non-essential" by white collar professionals comfortably working from home are pretty essential to th…

I could not agree more. I do not understand why this is not more widely understood.

Re: Fremont Tesla workers tested positive for coronavirus days after plant reopened

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post #15

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I really don't think he did any more math than "I want this factory open"

Musk is a smart man, are you suggesting that he doesn't think about the obvious consequences of his actions?

I think there's a lot of evidence he often shoots from the hip.

Re: Fremont Tesla workers tested positive for coronavirus days after plant reopened

#33
post #11

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perhaps you can invent a society where the work needed to live can get done without any humans doing work.

>a society where the work needed to live a good start would be to pay well for that work.

Exactly.

> There's something wrong with our civilization when some people have to go in for the increased risk to their health for $15+ just to feed their families while we comfortably and safely sit at home getting paid multiples of that and ride that great stock market.

This isn't a jab at workers needing to go back to work, this is a jab at the fact that we treat retail workers like garbage when in reality our society would crumble without them. The whole "just get a better job if you want to be paid more" argument levied at those who push for a higher minimum wage not only ignores the fact that, when in poverty, it's very hard to get a "better job", but also ignores the fact that these jobs are necessary. Somebody has to do them. Why are sanitation workers getting paid less than stock brokers when sanitation workers are doing objectively harder work and are at far more risk (especially now)?

> perhaps you can invent a society where the work needed to live can get done without any humans doing work.

No, I'll invent a society where people whose job it is to move money around are paid substantially less than retail workers or janitors, and where those that do labor like this are respected more highly than someone like Warren Buffet or Crissy Teigen.

Re: Fremont Tesla workers tested positive for coronavirus days after plant reopened

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Yes. Obviously! Why else would he give his child an unpronounceable name or publically call a perfect stranger a pedophile?

> call a perfect stranger a pedophile? Smart people can be assholes, too.

Smart people can also make stupid decisions. Just because someone is "smart" doesn't mean they are always "thinking"

Re: Fremont Tesla workers tested positive for coronavirus days after plant reopened

#35
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> Musk went as far as to dare authorities to arrest him. Is this referring to this tweet ( https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1259945593805221891 ) that said "Tesla is restarting production today against Alameda County rules. I will be on the line with everyone else. If anyone is arrested, I ask that it only be me." ?

I’m curious if you think Tesla should still be closed now?

Re: Fremont Tesla workers tested positive for coronavirus days after plant reopened

#36
post #15

Somewhere in Musk's calculus, he must have determined just how many people can get sick and die without it being too much of a PR problem.

I really don't think he did any more math than "I want this factory open"

I really hope we remind folks with responsibility like Musk - that their actions do have consequences, and that's why Tesla is singled out here.

I say this as a huge EV proponent and someone who has a Cybertruck on order.

Re: Fremont Tesla workers tested positive for coronavirus days after plant reopened

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something wrong with our civilization when some people have to go in for the increased risk to their health for $15+ (and i guess it is even less than that outside of CA) just to feed their families while we comfortably and safely sit at home getting paid multiples of that and ride that great stock market. Anyway, you should have seen packed restaurants' sidewalks this weekend. The life is ready to come roaring back.…

The 2 cases is only in the days after the factory re-opened. You're comparing apples and oranges here.

ok, even if we suppose that it were absolutely brand new cases - Alameda county has added ~1300 cases since Tesla opened May 18. Still almost an order of magnitude difference.

Re: Fremont Tesla workers tested positive for coronavirus days after plant reopened

#38
It would be great if people writing articles like this (I hesitate to call them journalists these days) could take the time to provide more context.

According to the county dashboard, Alameda County had 2,564 cases on May 20, 2 days after Tesla reopened: https://ac-hcsa.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html...

With a population of 1,671,000, that means about 0.15% of Alameda County residents had been diagnosed with covid-19 at that point.

So we could reasonably expect 15 cases out of the 10,000 employees at Tesla's factory.

Why the breathless article about 2 cases?

Re: Fremont Tesla workers tested positive for coronavirus days after plant reopened

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. Obviously! Why else would he give his child an unpronounceable name or publically call a perfect stranger a pedophile?

> call a perfect stranger a pedophile? Smart people can be assholes, too.

Smart people don't waste resources defending themselves from libel suits because they couldn't stay off twitter. If he called him a pedophile privately, that's being an asshole. Inviting legal action through public statements is a waste of everyone's time and money. See also the "going private @$420" tweet.

Re: Fremont Tesla workers tested positive for coronavirus days after plant reopened

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Here's an example of how workers were pressured to come into work:

The state approved Tesla to work. It's the county that is concerned. But if you decline to come to work, just know you will not receive benefits and you will be unable to apply for unemployment since we have work available. We can't force you to come in if you don't feel comfortable.

https://twitter.com/PlainSite/status/1270110558071566337

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