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Fremont Tesla workers tested positive for coronavirus days after plant reopened

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Re: Fremont Tesla workers tested positive for coronavirus days after plant reopened

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Post by trhway »

gameswithgo wrote: post #4
trhway wrote: post #2

something wrong with our civilization when some people have to go in for the increased risk to their health for $15+ (and i guess it is even less than that outside of CA) just to feed their families while we comfortably and safely sit at home getting paid multiples of that and ride that great stock market. Anyway, you should have seen packed restaurants' sidewalks this weekend. The life is ready to come roaring back.…

perhaps you can invent a society where the work needed to live can get done without any humans doing work.

>a society where the work needed to live

a good start would be to pay well for that work.

Re: Fremont Tesla workers tested positive for coronavirus days after plant reopened

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Post by heavyset_go »

arcticbull wrote: post #7
gameswithgo wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

perhaps you can invent a society where the work needed to live can get done without any humans doing work.

We're quickly approaching that. A few generations from now it'll just be the robots - and us watching.

Unless our descendants own those robots or there is a massive shift in who controls productive property, our lineages will die off once they're made permanently redundant and shut out from what those machines produce.

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Post by luckylion »

arcticbull wrote: post #7
gameswithgo wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

perhaps you can invent a society where the work needed to live can get done without any humans doing work.

We're quickly approaching that. A few generations from now it'll just be the robots - and us watching.

Maybe. A lot can happen in 100 years. Don't hold your breath.

Re: Fremont Tesla workers tested positive for coronavirus days after plant reopened

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Post by t-writescode »

andys627 wrote: post #6

> Musk went as far as to dare authorities to arrest him. Is this referring to this tweet ( https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1259945593805221891 ) that said "Tesla is restarting production today against Alameda County rules. I will be on the line with everyone else. If anyone is arrested, I ask that it only be me." ?

You mean where Musk is basically saying “please don’t hold my demands of my workers against them. Punish me instead, please?”

Re: Fremont Tesla workers tested positive for coronavirus days after plant reopened

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Post by xkjkls »

heavyset_go wrote: post #10

Somewhere in Musk's calculus, he must have determined just how many people can get sick and die without it being too much of a PR problem.

I really don't think he did any more math than "I want this factory open"

Re: Fremont Tesla workers tested positive for coronavirus days after plant reopened

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Post by xkjkls »

trhway wrote: post #2

something wrong with our civilization when some people have to go in for the increased risk to their health for $15+ (and i guess it is even less than that outside of CA) just to feed their families while we comfortably and safely sit at home getting paid multiples of that and ride that great stock market. Anyway, you should have seen packed restaurants' sidewalks this weekend. The life is ready to come roaring back.…

The 2 cases is only in the days after the factory re-opened. You're comparing apples and oranges here.

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Post by [deleted] »

t-writescode wrote: post #14
andys627 wrote: post #6

> Musk went as far as to dare authorities to arrest him. Is this referring to this tweet ( https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1259945593805221891 ) that said "Tesla is restarting production today against Alameda County rules. I will be on the line with everyone else. If anyone is arrested, I ask that it only be me." ?

You mean where Musk is basically saying “please don’t hold my demands of my workers against them. Punish me instead, please?”

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Re: Fremont Tesla workers tested positive for coronavirus days after plant reopened

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Post by xkjkls »

gameswithgo wrote: post #4
trhway wrote: post #2

something wrong with our civilization when some people have to go in for the increased risk to their health for $15+ (and i guess it is even less than that outside of CA) just to feed their families while we comfortably and safely sit at home getting paid multiples of that and ride that great stock market. Anyway, you should have seen packed restaurants' sidewalks this weekend. The life is ready to come roaring back.…

perhaps you can invent a society where the work needed to live can get done without any humans doing work.

No, just one where there isn't a permanent underclass that is exploited.

Re: Fremont Tesla workers tested positive for coronavirus days after plant reopened

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Post by heavyset_go »

xkjkls wrote: post #15
heavyset_go wrote: post #10

Somewhere in Musk's calculus, he must have determined just how many people can get sick and die without it being too much of a PR problem.

I really don't think he did any more math than "I want this factory open"

Musk is a smart man, are you suggesting that he doesn't think about the obvious consequences of his actions?

Re: Fremont Tesla workers tested positive for coronavirus days after plant reopened

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Post by luckylion »

danso wrote: post #9
nostromo wrote: post #3

“If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.” This is literally a local TV evening news story.

The top story a few days ago – the humming Golden Gate Bridge (by a margin of 500 upvotes) – was heavily covered in the TV news: https://news.ycombinator.com/front?day=2020-06-06 https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2020/06/06/wind-baffles-on... I remember the local Bay Area station having the best coverage of the Mountain View fatal autopilot crash, e.g. they talked to the family and found the victim had reported sever…

Probably. It's probably off-topic. Submitting whatever the evening news releases is usually off-topic. There are exceptions, of course. Sometimes the news does accidentally cover things that are interesting.
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