Does anybody have experience with https://tailwindui.com/. As dev I like the tailwindcss and the founder released this some time ago and I am wondering if it's worth the price.
NoDesign.dev – Tools and resources for non-artistic developers
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#152I've got to recommend refactoringui.com. They sell a (rather expensive) book on web/mobile app design that explains how to build your design system and use it to create great looking apps. They cover all the bases you would expect like fonts, line-heights, colors, shadows, borders, sizing, working with images, visual hierarchy, using white space, etc. etc. I'm a developer by trade and I work primarily with one other…
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#153I went from software engineer to founder. As part of that journey I had to learn something about design since my co-founder didn't have that skill or interest. My advice for founders: copy. Find a design you like, brand colors you like, and just copy it exactly. Colors, shadows, spacing, layout. As long as it is an established brand/company, the UX will be good enough that it won't harm your startup. And that's all y…
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Airplanes are driven by people who are trained specifically for this purpose, Software tools don't have this requirement.
That's not really true. Every custom built tool receives some form of training. Easily accessible designs lend themselves more for getting right into and learning by doing as a lot is self-explanatory and the user isn't overwhelmed. On the other hand, nice designs with lots of space, often also end up with slow response times and lots of scrolling of clicking, making certain work quite tedious. As the parent comment…
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Good advice, and I wholly agree: design is important and deserves an expert. > Reach out to some on social media Any tips on how, or where? My experience with fiverr is very much "hit or miss" and getting designers interested for a startup in very early phase is hard in my experience.
> My experience with fiverr is very much "hit or miss" and getting designers interested for a startup in very early phase is hard in my experience. How are you paying them? Fiverr is a low-price marketplace and not where I'd try to find the best talent. Getting good Fiverr designs requires a lot of work and some understanding of design. The latter seems to run counter to this thread. Ultimately, you won't get great d…
I am well aware of fiverr being the low-end of the spectrum, which is why I used that as example. As opposed to "finding a designer", which is costly.
I was not trying to argue that I want to hire a designer for a fiverr-price. Slavery has been abolished in Europe and I would not like to bring it back, thank you very much.
The advise to move forward with commonly known frameworks such as Bootstrap is a good one. As it allows to bring in (and properly pay!) designers when you can afford it.
Re: NoDesign.dev – Tools and resources for non-artistic developers
#156Most of my side projects just lay somewhere because I think a good design can make a difference. So this is really great resources. Does anybody have experience with https://tailwindui.com/ . As dev I like the tailwindcss and the founder released this some time ago and I am wondering if it's worth the price.
Before you get into tailwind-ui, I would start out with the basics of tailwind, which can already take you quite far. I would even say, that using simply tailwind will make your design unique in a way that tailwind-ui won't. That way, while you are in the process of designing your website, you always have the option, to extract your own components and don't fall back to templates which restrict your design.
One video, which was eye opening for me, was watching Adam Wathan rebuild Netlifly from scratch [1]. My takeaway: You don't need fancy ui-components to build something great.
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#157Design is a "talent" the same way software development is a "talent". Some people may have natural abilities, but overall it is something to be practiced and studied if you want to get better at it. CSS is just a programming language. I am as talentless a designer as any of you but I stopped reaching to libraries and frameworks to solve my design issues, and started learning modern CSS and some basic design skills. L…
Which Lynda courses would you recommend taking for starters?
I started with Essential CSS as a refresher. If you don't know much about CSS it's a good start. https://www.lynda.com/CSS-tutorials/CSS-Essential-Training/5...
Now I'm watching Design Aesthetics for the Web https://www.lynda.com/Design-Techniques-tutorials/Design-Aes...
On the same topic as "you don't need frameworks to get jobs done", the next one I'm going to take is learning ES6, because modern browser-supported javascript isn't completely terrible anymore.
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> "...that gives the content some air." lots of whitespace and "air" has become especially fashionable in the past many years. it makes design easier in some ways without necessarily pushing it forward. yes, it forces more conscientiousness of essentiality and contribution of each element (a good thing), but it's also used as an ipso facto justification to resist change and meeting needs (a bad thing). i love seeing…
Design is more complicated than just 'give content some air'. Here[0] doing that would be a recipe to disaster. I'm a user of this tool and it really works like it is. I doubt that making it look more trandy would make it more functional. [0] https://www.bulkrenameutility.co.uk/assets/img-bru/mainscr.p...
Just sticking to some proven standards, even from a 20 year old software book, can really enhance an interface. Right off the bat I can spot a half dozen instances where a text input could easily span to align with an element above it, but it falls a few pixels short.
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Your website is really cool and useful, and I already used it for several times in the past 1 year, I think I knew it from a Show HN post. Btw, I hope you can add more combine elements of LOGO, yeah, current combos are already amazing!
Glad you found it helpful. Enough ideas on the roadmap!
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You mean the User Experience (UX) is more important than User Interface (UI)?
No, that's not what I mean at all. What I'm saying is that beauty in design doesn't come from slapping a facade onto something. It comes from a harmonious relationship between all the elements, adding up to something that solves the particular 'problem' of that site. UI is a specialization within UX, the way databases are a specialization within Computer Science. CS deals more broadly in the constraints of memory, ti…