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Re: NoDesign.dev – Tools and resources for non-artistic developers

#11

Post by Cthulhu_ »

andersco wrote: post #7

How will these tools in fact enable a developer to ship a better design? As a developer with limited design skills, I find that the problem is not finding tools, but rather knowing how to use them, eg what font to choose, what color palette to pick etc.

My strategy: use a known CSS framework like Bootstrap, then pick one of many themes and slap it on there, whatever looks good enough.

If the application works, hire someone with design skills. They can work on contract basis as well.

Re: NoDesign.dev – Tools and resources for non-artistic developers

#13

Post by berkes »

onion2k wrote: post #10

Alternatively, just work with a designer. There are thousands of them out there who want to build tech stuff but don't have the skills. They want developers to collaborate with. Reach out to some on social media and you might be surprised how receptive they are. You don't have to do everything on your own, and you definitely shouldn't compromise on design if you want your project to succeed.

Good advice, and I wholly agree: design is important and deserves an expert.

> Reach out to some on social media

Any tips on how, or where?

My experience with fiverr is very much "hit or miss" and getting designers interested for a startup in very early phase is hard in my experience.

Re: NoDesign.dev – Tools and resources for non-artistic developers

#14

Post by RobertKerans »

berkes wrote: post #13
onion2k wrote: post #10

Alternatively, just work with a designer. There are thousands of them out there who want to build tech stuff but don't have the skills. They want developers to collaborate with. Reach out to some on social media and you might be surprised how receptive they are. You don't have to do everything on your own, and you definitely shouldn't compromise on design if you want your project to succeed.

Good advice, and I wholly agree: design is important and deserves an expert. > Reach out to some on social media Any tips on how, or where? My experience with fiverr is very much "hit or miss" and getting designers interested for a startup in very early phase is hard in my experience.

As in Dribbble or Behance for example, or Twitter (et al). Or look for large designer communities on Slack or Discord etc (or FB)

fiverr (or Upwork etc) are just meat markets and a race to the bottom, being hit or miss should be expected from those platforms: if you try to buy things on the [extreme end of] cheap, then often the end product is not going to be particularly good.

Re: NoDesign.dev – Tools and resources for non-artistic developers

#15

Post by JoshTriplett »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #11
andersco wrote: post #7

How will these tools in fact enable a developer to ship a better design? As a developer with limited design skills, I find that the problem is not finding tools, but rather knowing how to use them, eg what font to choose, what color palette to pick etc.

My strategy: use a known CSS framework like Bootstrap, then pick one of many themes and slap it on there, whatever looks good enough. If the application works, hire someone with design skills. They can work on contract basis as well.

> My strategy: use a known CSS framework like Bootstrap,

Any suggestions for using Bootstrap or another CSS framework without using JavaScript? I'd like a pure CSS framework. Bootstrap looks good, but doesn't document what if any limitations will apply if not using their JS.

Re: NoDesign.dev – Tools and resources for non-artistic developers

#16

Post by ddevault »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #15
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My strategy: use a known CSS framework like Bootstrap, then pick one of many themes and slap it on there, whatever looks good enough. If the application works, hire someone with design skills. They can work on contract basis as well.

> My strategy: use a known CSS framework like Bootstrap, Any suggestions for using Bootstrap or another CSS framework without using JavaScript? I'd like a pure CSS framework. Bootstrap looks good, but doesn't document what if any limitations will apply if not using their JS.

You can just skip the JS and almost all of Bootstrap's features will still work fine.

Re: NoDesign.dev – Tools and resources for non-artistic developers

#17

Post by gwbas1c »

uvic wrote: post #2

Hi guys, Nodesign.dev is a collection of tools and resources for developers who want to make their site look "respectable" without using any design tools...It includes everything from favicon generator , illustrations to CSS frameworks.

Chrome warns me that the page isn't secure, even though you're using https.

Re: NoDesign.dev – Tools and resources for non-artistic developers

#18

Post by elicash »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #15
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My strategy: use a known CSS framework like Bootstrap, then pick one of many themes and slap it on there, whatever looks good enough. If the application works, hire someone with design skills. They can work on contract basis as well.

> My strategy: use a known CSS framework like Bootstrap, Any suggestions for using Bootstrap or another CSS framework without using JavaScript? I'd like a pure CSS framework. Bootstrap looks good, but doesn't document what if any limitations will apply if not using their JS.

https://bulma.io has no js included.

Re: NoDesign.dev – Tools and resources for non-artistic developers

#19

Post by eitland »

onion2k wrote: post #10

Alternatively, just work with a designer. There are thousands of them out there who want to build tech stuff but don't have the skills. They want developers to collaborate with. Reach out to some on social media and you might be surprised how receptive they are. You don't have to do everything on your own, and you definitely shouldn't compromise on design if you want your project to succeed.

Isn't this for people who cannot afford to have a graphic designer?

Unless it is an open source project I feel it would be rude to ask someone to work for free on it.

Re: NoDesign.dev – Tools and resources for non-artistic developers

#20

Post by manojlds »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #15
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My strategy: use a known CSS framework like Bootstrap, then pick one of many themes and slap it on there, whatever looks good enough. If the application works, hire someone with design skills. They can work on contract basis as well.

> My strategy: use a known CSS framework like Bootstrap, Any suggestions for using Bootstrap or another CSS framework without using JavaScript? I'd like a pure CSS framework. Bootstrap looks good, but doesn't document what if any limitations will apply if not using their JS.

Doesn't it clearly say what components use JS:

https://getbootstrap.com/docs/4.5/getting-started/introducti...

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