On a side note: If you were successful in MtG and other 'deep' games, would you list it on your CV? Or does it still have the image of a children's card game?
I learned much with MtG. Problem with such games is that they are "winner takes it all" and in "real life" a win with "one life point" usually isn't worth it.
How the Magic: The Gathering Color Wheel Explains Humanity
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#72The whole opposites/balance motif is just something humans are really into about right now because we can't yet compare more than two things in our brain at a time. In reality all of these things are orthogonal, and while we do have words to distinguish them, they are only "opposing" in the sense that there is a word specifically meant to distinguish between them. Whatever that word is, it's just an over-simplified s…
Yes. Things are complex and multidimensional. But projections to lower dimensional spaces help us grasp it. Even if they distort the complex thing somewhat. If you see enough projections you can get the idea and some intuition about multidimensional thing. Much more than you could achieve just trying to see it in its full complexity at once.
For what it's worth, if anyone is interested, "paradox" has been the thing for me since.
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#74FYI - you can play mtg (even edh) online with your friends or randos: https://cockatrice.github.io/
Me and my friends have found that the most fun is to play using https://github.com/dr4fters/dr4ft (dr4ft.info, currently down, mirror here: https://beta-dr4ft.herokuapp.com/#) - we do a draft, then do a best of 3 rounds with the decks that we make. It makes deck-building a core part of the game, and it's always a completely new game. Brilliant fun.
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#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes. Things are complex and multidimensional. But projections to lower dimensional spaces help us grasp it. Even if they distort the complex thing somewhat. If you see enough projections you can get the idea and some intuition about multidimensional thing. Much more than you could achieve just trying to see it in its full complexity at once.
Super into this perspective. Unfortunately, I find myself around many people who don't see the modality as a dimension lowering, but instead as the truth. Which is fine, we're still very, very, very primitive. But I've been done with the whole "balance" thing for ~6 years and philosophy gets pretty lonely passed that hurdle. For what it's worth, if anyone is interested, "paradox" has been the thing for me since.
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
It was definitely the case in the early days. It is evidenced by the "boons", cards that cost 1 and do 3 of one thing the color is supposed to do best. The white one, Healing Salve, is very weak, it has later been replaced by a strictly better card. The red (Lightning Bolt), green (Giant Growth) and black (Dark Ritual) are very solid cards and were seen in most decks of their respective colors in the early days of Ma…
No blue also got the best cards afterwards. Jace the Mind Sculptor, True Name Nemesis, Delver of Secrets, Snapcaster Mage, Narset Parting Veil, Ponder, Urza, Oko, Uro, etc. Blue's color identity is just 'being really good at Magic' it seems
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#77Every time “Magic: The Gathering” is mentioned it seriously throws off my phrase parsing for like half a minute. What about “the magic”? What is “the gathering color wheel”? I wish “Magic: The Gathering” was in quotes.
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#78FYI - you can play mtg (even edh) online with your friends or randos: https://cockatrice.github.io/
I'm obligated to mention xmage: http://xmage.de/ Think cockatrice that trades ergonomics for a rules engine. Much easier to play when the game just 'works'. It even has loop detection for when you go infinite with triggers. One thing to note is the community run servers are plagued with performance hitches at peak time. If you play regularly on xmage with friends, I'd recommend making an image on your preferred VPS p…
Apparently since you can construct a Turing machine in Magic: The Gathering, this is a case where halting is formally undecidable in general. :-)
(not to suggest that any actual players have ever achieved a position in real play that would be undecidable by this engine)
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#79The human brain loves finding patterns, meaning, and explanations ( "the platonic rises to the top" , per Taleb), so you'll be able to do something like this for pretty much any configuration of objects (all numbers are interesting after all! [0]). One could write a similarly convincing post about how the Terrans, Zergs, and Protoss embody the 3 core pillars of humanity, complete with esoteric looking diagrams. Read…
> The real insight for me came when I learned to hear what people were really saying Yes. I would add that another insight is that it's much easier to communicate with people when you learn their language. It might be much easier for a nerd to introspect about their personality when prodded using MTG, a familiar framework. Similarly some people expect their relative positions in n-dimensional personality space to be…
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#80In talking about linking colour to ways of thinking, there's also de Bono's hats: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Thinking_Hats BLUE "The Big Picture" WHITE "Facts & Information" RED "Feelings & Emotions" BLACK "Critical Judgement" YELLOW "Positive" GREEN "New Ideas"
BLACK: Big-picture executive thinking.
RED: Thinking like a Reddit commenter. (Glib, humorous oneliners)
ORANGE: Thinking like a Hackernews commenter. (Glib, contrarian milti-liners.)
YELLOW: The color of the sun, sunflowers, lions, and therefore courage and the heart, as in middle ages medicine.
GREEN: Thinking about the environment, or money, or both.
CYAN: Coming up with business ideas similar to the printer ink pricing model.
BLUE: Thinking about celestial objects that are moving towards us, like Andromeda.
VIOLET: Being violent.