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Re: Cloudflare TV

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Post by mike_d »

graiz wrote: post #148

Ok. Let's put aside the content that Cloudflare will produce. They aren't a content company. What they are showing is that cable is dying and using Cloudflare technology they can standup a global 24-hour TV station. How many TV stations are there around the world? A lot and the future of TV is certainly digital. I don't care about the content but if they can pull this off then it's a showcase to every one of the tens…

> it's a showcase to every one of the tens of thousands of QVC, MTV, BBC, CSPAN, Discovery Channel, networks that they don't need the big cable players to broadcast anymore

You can start your own satellite TV channel for about the price of a midsized car. IPTV is quite popular in non-Western countries and providers will basically distribute your channel for free.

What Cloudflare is trying to dop is stress test their video platform before they try and go hard to steal customers from Akamai, LimeLight, and Level3/CenturyLink.

Re: Cloudflare TV

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Post by wise_young_man »

eastdakota wrote: post #8
ireflect wrote: post #4

This is really interesting and I hope it's a success. It seems like it's intended to be 80% useful and 20% tongue-in-cheek joke. I'm skeptical that viewers will prefer this live scheduled format rather than simply posting all the videos to be viewed on-demand. Don't get me wrong, I love the idea of this anachronism (and especially their 80s-era channel ID logo to go along with it) but personally I prefer to consume v…

We think interactivity is key, hence why we are prioritizing as much live content as we can. Site will become more and more interactive over time.

Why is it one cannot still register a new domain using Cloudflare? As someone who worked at a registrar before and managed ICANN compliance and registry connections, this isn’t a hard problem at all.

As a long time user, customer and promoter, this is puzzling to me to see change in direction and lack of product focus on what brought initial interest (DNS) to Cloudflare in the tech world first with the VPN stuff and now this TV stuff.

Re: Cloudflare TV

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Post by hnick »

Smaug123 wrote: post #146
nine_k wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

len('accessibility') == 13 So a11y stands for "a word starting with 'a' then 11 letters then ending with 'y'". Compare to i18n, l10n.

I hadn't seen any of these before, and the first word I found for i18n was "iodochlorhydroxyquin". Seemed somewhat unlikely.

internationalization

Re: Cloudflare TV

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Post by p4bl0 »

The constant comparison with MTV is weird, but fun. Here is a proposed parallel grid:

Next: tech job interviews.

Bug raiders: bug fixing live.

Pimp my web: Xzibit manages a team of front-end engineers.

Jackass: Programming drones that do stupid things.

Re: Cloudflare TV

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Post by Simon_says »

qes wrote: post #139
nine_k wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are youtube ads really unskippable with youtube-dl, VLC, and other similar tools? Much like DVD ads used to be unskippable, but only for the non-tech-savvy.

> Are youtube ads really unskippable No. I never see ads on Youtube on my own devices, and that barely requires any effort.

I had to jailbreak my iPhone in order to not see Youtube ads. That qualifies as some (small) effort.

Re: Cloudflare TV

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Post by saagarjha »

Simon_says wrote: post #155
qes wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Are youtube ads really unskippable No. I never see ads on Youtube on my own devices, and that barely requires any effort.

I had to jailbreak my iPhone in order to not see Youtube ads. That qualifies as some (small) effort.

You must be using the app?

Re: Cloudflare TV

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Post by jgrahamc »

lstamour wrote: post #54
eastdakota wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's an interesting idea. Will suggest to the programming team. Probably tricky while we're all working from home. But… maybe in the future. A mini version of that is a show that John Graham-Cumming, our CTO, is going to be hosting weekly: https://cloudflare.tv/schedule/3RbW4iJZAbfN9OetUovuQ2 "Join Cloudflare CTO John Graham-Cumming as he interviews Cloudflare engineers and they discuss a 'war story' of a problem t…

That does sound interesting, but the link says it streams 6:30-7am. (I presume that’s a local time for my time zone?) Any chance it will show up as a podcast or on YouTube, or available to watch at another time?

I've asked teams in the US offices to volunteer people to come on the show. I imagine that once we get through the first week of this we'll add another Story Time slot so I can talk to people in California easily.

Re: Cloudflare TV

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Post by tutfbhuf »

trog wrote: post #56

I'm a generally technical person and I'm simply flat out uninterested in video content - the stuff that will be on this sounds broadly interesting to me but I'd rather read it in article format. I understand video "performs" well in a lot of contexts (and thus is of particular interest to marketing people) but I am always surprised when content targeted broadly towards the technical community is done in a video-first…

> I'm a generally technical person and I'm simply flat out uninterested in video content

There are many good videos lectures available on YouTube from Stanford, MIT and other universities. You also have student questions on tape, very much like sitting in the real lecture. Could you explain what exactly makes the content uninteresting, when it is in video format?

Re: Cloudflare TV

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Post by me551ah »

trog wrote: post #56

I'm a generally technical person and I'm simply flat out uninterested in video content - the stuff that will be on this sounds broadly interesting to me but I'd rather read it in article format. I understand video "performs" well in a lot of contexts (and thus is of particular interest to marketing people) but I am always surprised when content targeted broadly towards the technical community is done in a video-first…

Personally I prefer written content because I can pace it myself. I can skim past stuff that I already know, jump to a different section quickly, and reread complex content. You can play a video at 1.25x or 1.5x but sometimes that can be hard to understand and skipping and finding a section in a video can be time consuming.

Re: Cloudflare TV

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Post by onion2k »

Anon4Now wrote: post #93
trog wrote: post #56

I'm a generally technical person and I'm simply flat out uninterested in video content - the stuff that will be on this sounds broadly interesting to me but I'd rather read it in article format. I understand video "performs" well in a lot of contexts (and thus is of particular interest to marketing people) but I am always surprised when content targeted broadly towards the technical community is done in a video-first…

I'm mixed. I enjoy programming video tutorials, but they are often too slow and padded with non-essential and repetitive information. Unless there's a transcript, searching for a part that you need a recap of isn't much different than information retrieval from tape drives in the 60's. The best video tutorials have include a transcript and a github repo.

For graphics programming tutorials a video is a huge help. The huge problem with text articles about complex dev topics is that errors compound - if you're following along and you make a mistake early on you won't necessarily know until much later, by which time it's a lot harder to figure out where you went wrong. Being able to see what was supposed to happen at each step makes it much easier to follow.

Also, with a live stream in particular, you frequently get to see the author make mistakes and stop to figure stuff out rather than just the edited and polished perfection of a published article. I find that really helps to humanize the author, and gives me confidence that even though I'm making a lot of mistakes I'll be able to get to a finished product eventually.

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