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The Brave web browser is hijacking links, and inserting affiliate codes

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Post by Sevaris »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #257
Sevaris wrote: post #39

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Which is missing nearly all of the addons that I use and which don't seem to be a priority for Mozilla. Their whole strategy regarding addons is incredibly frustrating.

Sure, but Brave on Android has no extension support, so still better.

I'm not okay with how Mozilla behaves regarding add-ons. As in, they have all this addon support, but it's not in any way a priority for them so they've basically taken it all away. So I won't support them or use their browser until they do.

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Post by threatofrain »

mmcru wrote: post #100
this_user wrote: post #13

I'm surprised people are surprised by this. Brave have said from the beginning that this is how their business model works. What I'm even more surprised about is that Brave has gotten any traction at all, as there is really no reason to use it instead of a normal browser with regular ad blockers.

I use it on iOS because its an easy solution for ad-blocking. Is there a good ad-blocker for Safari on iOS?

Firefox Focus is a good ad blocker for Safari, you just have to turn on ad blocking integration.

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Post by bmn__ »

paulryanrogers wrote: post #251
morog wrote: post #244

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I've been using Brave for this reason too on desktop. I installed opera for the first time in years last week, very nicely surprised. Fast, chrome based browser. The extension bar on the left is a useful add-on. I'll be removing Brave after this news and be using Firefox mainly, with opera as my 2nd browser.

Consider Vivaldi too. It is closer in spirit to the original Opera IMO.

https://otter-browser.org is closest.

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Post by alexruf »

andai wrote: post #96
alexruf wrote: post #29

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Agree. Not sure what else needs to happen to encourage Chromium users to finally give Firefox a try.

Latency. Just tested with a "hello world" page (18ms ping). Chrome takes 102-200ms to render the page, Firefox takes 150-400ms. 1.5 to 2x slower -- and that's after all the performance upgrades they've done with Rust and Quantum. Network inspector says Firefox is spending 150-270ms "blocked" before it even initiates the connection. On Chrome the block is 3-18ms (15-50x (!!) faster). There's also UI lag. When I press…

I am using Firefox now for almost 7 years as my main browser (Chrome still installed for some pages not properly working in other Browser). But the number you are mentioning here are just not true with current versions of both browsers. Overall I agree that FF still has potential to improve it’s rendering performance (like every other browser). But as an end user it’s not noticeable anymore. Quite the opposite is the case for me since FF always used way less resources than Chrome on my notebook.

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Post by davidgerard »

plerpin wrote: post #242
bootlooped wrote: post #231

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I would be surprised if inserting affiliate links in this manner wasn't against the TOS of the site. It's not adding value for the site if Brave is just front-running people who have already decided to go there.

Brave and Binance have a preexisting business relationship. Brave uses its own crypto funny-money and I think they even integrated a Binance-monitoring widget into the browser.

This is how much Binance stuff is already built into Brave:

https://github.com/brave/brave-core/search?q=binance&unscope...

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Post by davidgerard »

arminiusreturns wrote: post #281
close04 wrote: post #37

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Also this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20050173 > The blocking ability of the webRequest API is still deprecated, and Google Chrome's limited matching algorithm will be the only one possible, and with limits dictated by Google employees. Firefox + uBO + uMatrix will block everything you can reasonably block without making your internet life miserable in the other extreme (although uMatrix can be a pain somet…

While uMatrix may be a bit of a pain, once you have your basic rulset and whitelists setup it functions very well, and beyond that, it really helps you understand what makes the modern web so shitty, and helps you know which sites are part of that and which aren't, which I think is pretty invaluable. Like many things, it may take more upfront investment but it's worth it imho. If I could force every webdev to browse…

I was most amused when he used my site as his test example in the uMatrix manual.

https://github.com/gorhill/uMatrix/wiki/How-to-create-rules-...

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Post by kwhitefoot »

thawaway1837 wrote: post #248
agotterer wrote: post #233

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I came here to suggest Vivaldi. I’ve been using it for nearly two years as my primary browser. It’s not perfect, but no browser is. However, it’s the only browser I’ve found that treats It’s users like an adult and lets them setup the browser the way they want.

Vivaldi is the true successor of Opera, more so than the Opera we have today.

But Opera is still useful because it has a VPN (proxy really) built in so that you can reach sites blacklisted by various public Wi-Fi access points.

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Post by dragonwriter »

paulryanrogers wrote: post #253
plerpin wrote: post #243

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Just use Ungoogled Chromium. Why suffer rent seeking crypto shenanigans?

Automated updates on Windows. That said there is no shortage of Chromium forks with auto update these days.

> Automated updates on Windows.

So, if you want a Google-free Chromium with that...Edge?

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Post by dragonwriter »

hendersoon wrote: post #196
burtonator wrote: post #178

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Firefox is STILL largely funded by Google right? I find it odd that one of Firefox's only features, over Chrome, is privacy, but they're funded by Google who is the anti-hero right now in the privacy space. If Firefox's mission is successful they would lose all their funding.

Mozilla is indirectly funded by Google, yes. They don't have ownership. It's the same way that the NY Times is indirectly funded by Mazda. They pay for ads.

> Mozilla is indirectly funded by Google, yes

There's nothing indirect about Google cutting checks directly to Mozilla.

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Post by app4soft »

alexruf wrote: post #29
meerita wrote: post #15

Being a happy Firefox user and watching all the browser drama from the backyard. I still don't understand why people uses Chrome or Chrome variants claiming privacy things.

Agree. Not sure what else needs to happen to encourage Chromium users to finally give Firefox a try.

Not sure what else needs to happen to encourage Chromium & Firefox users to finally give Pale Moon a try.
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