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Re: Changes to our content policy, our board, and where we’re going from here

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Post by Traster »

john_alan wrote: post #30
kitsune_ wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your implied reverse-racism argument just doesn't hold. Are you telling me that there are no capable African-Americans who could fill that board position? If not, the what are you arguing? That increasing the representation of historically oppressed minority groups is bad?

> Are you telling me that there are no capable African-Americans who could fill that board position? Of fucking course not. > If not, the what are you arguing? That increasing the representation of historically oppressed minority groups is bad? This might be difficult for you to understand but explicitly hiring someone with a particular skin colour is the fucking definition of racism.

>This might be difficult for you to understand but explicitly hiring someone with a particular skin colour is the fucking definition of racism.

The only difference between what they're doing now and what they did before is the skin color requirement is explicit instead of implicit. Only hire white guys? Meritocracy! Decide you want to hire 1 black guy? Racist!

Re: Changes to our content policy, our board, and where we’re going from here

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Post by panpanna »

PunchTornado wrote: post #33
panpanna wrote: post #18

About time. It is almost impossible to browse the front page without seeing some hateful content. And I am not talking about the political stuff. You can upload video of a random dude getting beaten to death, make some absurd claims like "the guy is a pedophile caught in the act" and watch the hateful comments roll in. Basically, you can make any claims and the ones that keep people's blood boiling seems very popular…

maybe you should unsubscribe from subs you don't like. plenty of people like violent subs, like justicesurved or others.

Mate I got news for you:

they are getting so popular they are all over the front page.

I sometimes wonder if Reddit has resulted in a generation completely unable of critical thinking.

Re: Changes to our content policy, our board, and where we’re going from here

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Post by trianglem »

high_derivative wrote: post #29

To me, it seems like a combination of childish-authoritarian beliefs that the world will change for the better once, and only once, you stop anyone from saying anything controversial at all. Once nobody is able to disagree, bad things won't exist any more.

It’s all about doing what you can when you can. Please take this acerbic, hyperbolic attitude somewhere else.

Re: Changes to our content policy, our board, and where we’re going from here

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Post by uniqueid »

fakename11 wrote: post #34
uniqueid wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I despise this kind of actions taken > based on the colour of the skin Are you sure you aren't applying a rule, on this occasion, without thinking it through? Skin-colour is relevant to the job here: it's a guarantee that the board member will have first-hand experience dealing with the issues Alexis thinks Reddit has mishandled.

Not necessarily guaranteed, not every person with a certain skin color has experienced the same thing... but you can probably find someone that has if that is what you are selecting for.

True. I actually considered clarifying that. But if we're being pragmatic, the chances are awfully good that a new "black" board member will understand the issues.

Have to say, unless the board member is also a prickly character, there's a high likelihood, even with an understanding, that he or she won't really rock the boat anyways.

Re: Changes to our content policy, our board, and where we’re going from here

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Post by steveeq1 »

fakename11 wrote: post #37
eganist wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And what defines "hate"? Are they going be as consistent with the content of gangsta rappers? I'd wager no. Probably because the content from "gangsta rappers" doesn't instigate brutality that leverages a power imbalance the way cultural and systemic hatred drive police brutality. > thug brutality is a bigger problem than police brutality It's objectively not, and I won't hide the reasoning either: police brutality…

Maybe he thinks that black-on-black crime is probably worse than police-on-black crime since it's more common?

Because it is: https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/163/274/fbf...

Re: Changes to our content policy, our board, and where we’re going from here

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Post by Dahoon »

throwaway9482 wrote: post #17

I deleted my reddit account after I saw this announcement. That website has been on a downward slide ever since Tencent got some ownership and it’s become very evident Reddit is being used to push some ideologies.

Reddit's downward spiral has not changed since Tencent. It has always been like this and has nothing to do with Tencent and everything to do with the administrators/owners/boardmembers and the few moderator friends they let control most of the big subs. Go read what actual moderators (not the admin-friend-mods but everyone else) says about this and it will have nothing to do with China.

Could you not have left Reddit on Reddit instead of taking it with you here? There's enough China-hate here already.

Re: Changes to our content policy, our board, and where we’re going from here

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Post by throwaway-gf »

kitsune_ wrote: post #19
KKPMW wrote: post #13

This whole post is weird. Based on the tone they seem to think they are combating racism. But really the CEO of a company just announced that they are looking for a new candidate. Requirements? - No particular requirements, except having the right skin color.

Your implied reverse-racism argument just doesn't hold. Are you telling me that there are no capable African-Americans who could fill that board position? If not, the what are you arguing? That increasing the representation of historically oppressed minority groups is bad?

Why does the current generation have any obligations with right to sins (slavery etc) committed long before they were born? I don’t believe that sins can be inherited. It’s now well over half a century since any remaining discriminatory laws where abolished in the US, and longer than that in most of Europe. Government affirmative action has existed for decades. Let everyone compete on their own merits.

Re: Changes to our content policy, our board, and where we’re going from here

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Post by high_derivative »

trianglem wrote: post #43
high_derivative wrote: post #29

To me, it seems like a combination of childish-authoritarian beliefs that the world will change for the better once, and only once, you stop anyone from saying anything controversial at all. Once nobody is able to disagree, bad things won't exist any more.

It’s all about doing what you can when you can. Please take this acerbic, hyperbolic attitude somewhere else.

I hope the irony is not lost on you when you ask me to leave this platform for disagreeing with you.

Re: Changes to our content policy, our board, and where we’re going from here

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Post by i_love_limes »

john_alan wrote: post #30
kitsune_ wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your implied reverse-racism argument just doesn't hold. Are you telling me that there are no capable African-Americans who could fill that board position? If not, the what are you arguing? That increasing the representation of historically oppressed minority groups is bad?

> Are you telling me that there are no capable African-Americans who could fill that board position? Of fucking course not. > If not, the what are you arguing? That increasing the representation of historically oppressed minority groups is bad? This might be difficult for you to understand but explicitly hiring someone with a particular skin colour is the fucking definition of racism.

Ah yes, who better to make decisions related to the problems of racism in Reddit than a group of white people. And intentionally including a non white person is in that discussion is actually racist.

I think the "reverse racism" argument shows that you haven't read a huge amount in this topic. Which is surprising given the focus of these issues in the past couple of weeks.

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