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Re: Fitful nightly sleep linked to chronic inflammation, hardened arteries

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When I say the same thing about Prozac, people react with anger. It's strange. A sleep study is definitely one of the best things I ever did. It helped uncover some undiagnosed narcolepsy, and I've been able to manage it since then. Even knowing that it existed was helpful. (For example, lots of stress was caused by getting jobs that expect you to have your butt in the seat from 9am to 5pm. Other jobs exist.) So yes.…

I'm glad Prozac worked for you. It made me impotent in my 20s and I felt like I was being dropped down an elevator shaft for months after discontinuing it.

> being dropped down an elevator shaft

What do you mean by this?

Re: Fitful nightly sleep linked to chronic inflammation, hardened arteries

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I'm glad Prozac worked for you. It made me impotent in my 20s and I felt like I was being dropped down an elevator shaft for months after discontinuing it.

> being dropped down an elevator shaft What do you mean by this?

Ddg for SSRI withdrawal symptoms.

Re: Fitful nightly sleep linked to chronic inflammation, hardened arteries

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If your doctor tells you to do a sleep study, do it. If, as a result, they tell you to get a CPAP, get it. Those things are life-changing. I felt like an old man at 50 years old. My back was so stiff I couldn't put on my socks. When I got out of bed in the morning I felt so fragile, like my joints were all inflamed - especially my Achilles' tendons. I was too tired to do anything beyond 6 pm. Now, 51, I feel totally…

Thanks for your comment. My doctor did tell me to, and I forgot. Once I feel safer around COVID, I'll schedule my appointment.

Re: Fitful nightly sleep linked to chronic inflammation, hardened arteries

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Are you paying less, all in? (e.g., taxes)

We are, yes. But the average American would be shocked at the "customer experience" the average patient gets from the NHS. No such thing as a free lunch etc. And I think if you have private insurance (i.e: double paying), you'll probably be paying more than the average American. I don't know for sure though.

I am not sure what you mean by “average American” but millions of people in this country rely on emergency room visits for their health care needs. I suspect the NHS provides a superior “patient” experience.

Re: Fitful nightly sleep linked to chronic inflammation, hardened arteries

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If your doctor tells you to do a sleep study, do it. If, as a result, they tell you to get a CPAP, get it. Those things are life-changing. I felt like an old man at 50 years old. My back was so stiff I couldn't put on my socks. When I got out of bed in the morning I felt so fragile, like my joints were all inflamed - especially my Achilles' tendons. I was too tired to do anything beyond 6 pm. Now, 51, I feel totally…

This may sound crazy, but for those who can't tolerate a CPAP, an effective alternative is playing the didgeridoo.[1] Anecdotally my wife and kids were complaining about my snoring, and I bought one for $40 off Amazon. Not only has my snoring improved, but my lung capacity has improved. Plus it's just fun to play. [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1360393/

Singing also appears to reduce snoring and sleep apnea by strengthening the pharyngeal muscles.[1]

[1] https://file.scirp.org/Html/5-2460085_31850.htm

Re: Fitful nightly sleep linked to chronic inflammation, hardened arteries

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If your doctor tells you to do a sleep study, do it. If, as a result, they tell you to get a CPAP, get it. Those things are life-changing. I felt like an old man at 50 years old. My back was so stiff I couldn't put on my socks. When I got out of bed in the morning I felt so fragile, like my joints were all inflamed - especially my Achilles' tendons. I was too tired to do anything beyond 6 pm. Now, 51, I feel totally…

This may sound crazy, but for those who can't tolerate a CPAP, an effective alternative is playing the didgeridoo.[1] Anecdotally my wife and kids were complaining about my snoring, and I bought one for $40 off Amazon. Not only has my snoring improved, but my lung capacity has improved. Plus it's just fun to play. [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1360393/

Might some other instruments work too? Harmonica played in blues style (with bends) seems to work the palate muscles pretty hard.

Not that I don’t love didgeridoo music :-/

Re: Fitful nightly sleep linked to chronic inflammation, hardened arteries

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I found it helpful to work on nose breath power. I needed to for boxing as I was mouth breathing. So on my jogs I started to nose breath took some time to get the throughput I needed but sleep improved and general breathing feels much improved.

Can you provide some articles/videos for techniques? I've been a mouth breather my whole life and wonder if I could improve my running performance by switching technique.

These 2 exercises worked for me. I did this 5 days a week (around 15-30 mins) and it took approx 4 weeks to get to a predominantly nose breathing situation.

1. Jog slowly at a pace that is comfortable while breathing through your nose. 2. Speed up pace until you feel like you will need to breathe through your mouth stay there for 10-20 seconds. 3. Slow your pace back down to where it's comfortable. 4. Adjust your pace up and down between these zones in intervals. 5. Over time increase pace and interval length.

- It's ok to take some mouth breaths as you continue practicing. The goal is to increase % of breathes via nose. - When you get the hang of that try it while jumping a rope.

Seated breathing exercise, do with shirt off to observe abdominal and chest region while practicing: 1. Sit comfortable, good upright posture. 2. Breathe in fully and hold for 2 seconds. 3. Sip in as much more breathe you can and hold 2 seconds. 4. Sip in the final amount you can and hold for 2-3 seconds. 5. Exhale out fully and hold for 2 seconds. 6. Exhale out tiny bit more and hold for 2 seconds. 7. Exhale out tiny bit more and hold for 2-3 seconds. 8. Repeat from step 2.

- I found this really good to do in a park or in nature.

These two where my main exercises on top of using that in boxing. - In a fairly short amount of time I was able to get a full lung breathe through the nose easily.

Good luck.

Re: Fitful nightly sleep linked to chronic inflammation, hardened arteries

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If this describes you, go get a sleep study done. A CPAP has completely changed the quality of my sleep. Even short sleep nights are deep and restful. Now I just need to get my diet under control and exercise regularly...

Wouldn’t getting your diet under control and exercising regularly be a lot easier/cheaper/better for you in the long run?

No, and I find it somewhat baffling that so many people seem to think along these lines.

For most people, making major, permanent lifestyle changes is much harder than using a CPAP machine. For people with chronically disrupted sleep, that gap is even wider.

Healthy diet and exercise are free in principle, but you have to choose extremely cheap options for them to actually be cheaper than a CPAP machine in practice.

It's not really "better for" someone with OSA because lifestyle changes alone only have a small effect on OSA severity. It's like going on a low-sodium diet when you have hypertension: it's not a bad idea, and it's almost always good for a few points of improvement, but only an utterly incompetent doctor would recommend it as the sole treatment.

Re: Fitful nightly sleep linked to chronic inflammation, hardened arteries

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I live in Bali. I had some chest pains for a few months so saw a specialist. He tested with stethoscope and said sounded fine. He gave me the option of taking a CT thorax. Went downstairs to radiology. They could do the CT scan right away. They had a deal going for COVID of blood test + CT thorax for $120 USD (whereas the CT Thorax a lone would have been $170). So I took the test and got the results 2 days later and…

I assume you're not an Indonesian local…? How does the hospital prevent frivolous checkups from hypochondriacs?

Yes I'm an expat. I'm not sure other than needing to see a doctor before the specialist to get a referral and needing to see the specialist before going to radiology.
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