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iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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Post by mmm_grayons »

snazz wrote: post #431
mmm_grayons wrote: post #165

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Desktop macs have i message too, so a determined spammer could just make a bunch of mac vms. Getting a valid serial with an unconfirmed purchase date is a massive pain, though.

It worked for me as soon as I upgraded my Hackintosh to Catalina. I had an invalid serial number and board ID. Not sure why it suddenly worked.

Interesting, go figure. Maybe it's something about the upgrade process? I made a fresh one on catalina and had a mess of a time getting it to work.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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Post by ComputerGuru »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #447
ComputerGuru wrote: post #444

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The information was circa 2017, I do believe the kexts and bootloaders for hackintosh configurations have since improved significantly.

Not in this regard. I don't think there was any point at which iMessage on Hackintosh was impossible without a donor, but I've personally been using it since ~2015.

Maybe you got lucky with your hardware? I can’t remember all the exact details but these posts are all from the same 2017-2018 window and the solutions all resolve around network hardware: https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&sa=N&hl=en-us&q=...

It’s been too long for me to remember more than this, but I did have iMessage on a hackintosh circa 2013 or so but wasn’t able to get that to happen when I tried in 2017/2018.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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Post by RC_ITR »

partyboat1586 wrote: post #364
RC_ITR wrote: post #161

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99% of Americans don’t want to be funneled to WhatsApp or signal for group chat. They want it to live right next to their native texts. Your group is likely different from the mainstream.

99% is hyperbole based on Android market share in the US.

But that’s not what I’m saying.

People buy android phones for all sorts of reasons (in the US, mainly price). But in the US, it’s nearly impossible to have a broad social circle that doesn’t want to ‘text’ so I’d guess at least 99% of US users regularly engage with default messaging apps. if given the choice, of bet nearly all of those users would prefer to centralize their ‘texts’ instead of multi-apping

Look what happened to groupme as soon as iMessage group chat got good...

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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Post by scarface74 »

harpratap wrote: post #458
scarface74 wrote: post #339

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According to their last earnings - 50% of their revenue was outside of the iPhone. You also have to remember even the Mac by itself brought in higher revenue than all but the top 100 companies in the US and it’s only 10% of Apple’s revenue. The watch is a bigger revenue generator than the iPod ever was.

The Apple watch, Airpods and everything else except Macs are tightly coupled to the sale of iPhones. If you stop making iPhones, the rest is pretty much dead too.

AirPods are Bluetooth. The Beats division of Apple was already profitably selling headphones before Apple bought them. You act as if it would be a great technical hurdle to make the Watch work with Android. Apple is making the Watch a more standalone deceive with every release.

There is also the iPad that gets you another 10%. If just 10% of Apple’s revenue from the Mac puts it in the top 100, what does 30% do? If Apple created the “Mac company” it would still be the most profitable computer company in the world. It makes more selling Macs than any other company makes selling phones besides maybe Samsung.

But isn’t kind of silly talking about Apple being dependent on the iPhone when after two decades and billion of dollars, Google’s profit is still 90% from ads?

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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Post by harpratap »

scarface74 wrote: post #465
harpratap wrote: post #458

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The Apple watch, Airpods and everything else except Macs are tightly coupled to the sale of iPhones. If you stop making iPhones, the rest is pretty much dead too.

AirPods are Bluetooth. The Beats division of Apple was already profitably selling headphones before Apple bought them. You act as if it would be a great technical hurdle to make the Watch work with Android. Apple is making the Watch a more standalone deceive with every release. There is also the iPad that gets you another 10%. If just 10% of Apple’s revenue from the Mac puts it in the top 100, what does 30% do? If Ap…

> The Beats division of Apple was already profitably selling headphones before Apple bought them.

It made a few billions in revenue, that's far cry from trillions a tech giant is expected to make.

> You act as if it would be a great technical hurdle to make the Watch work with Android.

That's exactly my point. They shouldn't be making such closed ecosystem, their products will be more popular if anyone could use them. This is why they caved in on Apple Music and TV like services which are available on Android, Roku, Fire TV etc.

> There is also the iPad that gets you another 10%. If just 10% of Apple’s revenue from the Mac puts it in the top 100, what does 30% do? If Apple created the “Mac company” it would still be the most profitable computer company in the world. It makes more selling Macs than any other company makes selling phones besides maybe Samsung.

Nobody cares about "Mac Company" or "iPad Company". They don't have any clout. Hundreds of companies come and go from the top 100 but only a few can last for decades. Microsoft is still standing today even after a failed Mobile venture only because of the money they made during desktop era and still cashing in on that success. If iPhones stopped getting manufactured it's pretty much the end of Apple today regardless of their Mac, iPad or Airpods business.

> But isn’t kind of silly talking about Apple being dependent on the iPhone when after two decades and billion of dollars, Google’s profit is still 90% from ads?

Since when did whataboutism became a valid rebuttal?

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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Post by paulcarroty »

ripdog wrote: post #388
paulcarroty wrote: post #367

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> But getting iMessage is an economic barrier for many economic barrier to buy ~$100 used iphone on ebay?

Are you really going to buy, charge, supply with data and carry around a second phone, no matter how cheap, just so you can send blue messages? That attitude is, like many american ideas, really whack.

If technology X/Y/Z brings me something useful, I prefer to spend some money to get in. Social environment matters too.

You can live without iOS/Android, even with Android/macOS VM (heh, I've tried it once) - this is your choice.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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Post by partyboat1586 »

RC_ITR wrote: post #464
partyboat1586 wrote: post #364

Earlier quoted context omitted.

99% is hyperbole based on Android market share in the US.

But that’s not what I’m saying. People buy android phones for all sorts of reasons (in the US, mainly price). But in the US, it’s nearly impossible to have a broad social circle that doesn’t want to ‘text’ so I’d guess at least 99% of US users regularly engage with default messaging apps. if given the choice, of bet nearly all of those users would prefer to centralize their ‘texts’ instead of multi-apping Look what h…

So you are saying 99% of iPhone users would prefer to use iMessage. Yeah I don't doubt that, it's built in. Still you only need one or two close friends or family members with Android to install WhatsApp.

Why don't people use WhatsApp? Do Android users just not have any friends? Or do they use SMS? which is a joke next to WhatsApp and iMessage.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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Post by fzzzy »

Larrikin wrote: post #443
bobthepanda wrote: post #440

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> Thank you for making my point. iMessage is not texting. I'm responding to this. To your average iOS user they are one and the same, which is why US iPhone users don't generally download secondary chatting apps unless they have to.

I don't actually think this is true. Is there any verification that most iOS users do not have a single one of the most popular messaging apps in the world?

Well, here's an anecdote for you. I am a US iPhone user and I use zero third party messaging apps. I know of no one in my friend circle who has an iPhone and uses a third party messaging app.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

ComputerGuru wrote: post #462
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #447

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not in this regard. I don't think there was any point at which iMessage on Hackintosh was impossible without a donor, but I've personally been using it since ~2015.

Maybe you got lucky with your hardware? I can’t remember all the exact details but these posts are all from the same 2017-2018 window and the solutions all resolve around network hardware: https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&sa=N&hl=en-us&q=... It’s been too long for me to remember more than this, but I did have iMessage on a hackintosh circa 2013 or so but wasn’t able to get that to happen when I tried in 20…

It's not luck! :) https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/303073-pattern-of-ml...

Notably, you need to get this right on the first try (or at minimum the first try), or Apple appears to get suspicious for requests from your IP.

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