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iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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That’s decent rate limiting.

Desktop macs have i message too, so a determined spammer could just make a bunch of mac vms. Getting a valid serial with an unconfirmed purchase date is a massive pain, though.

It worked for me as soon as I upgraded my Hackintosh to Catalina. I had an invalid serial number and board ID. Not sure why it suddenly worked.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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Two of my main gripes with iMessage is the fact that if you scroll back up to read the past it becomes progressively slower and slower to scroll and each time the lag to get a new “page” of history takes longer. The other gripe is search being almost completely useless. Search for say “apples” and it just lists the entire conversation instead of relevant messages containing apples. And then you are left scrolling up…

They've actually fixed that second part: search now shows individual messages mentioning the search term (even if there are multiple in the same thread).

Only on iOS.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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You would presume incorrectly. iMessage extensions use native code + rendering. It is probably the main reason why these things aren’t available on macOS.

The extensions do that on iOS , yes. But the extension has to show up as something when a macOS client sees it, similarly to how Slack add-on messages have to be delivered as something to non-Slack UAs, e.g. bots.

It'll show a static image and some additional supporting text: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/messages/msmessage...

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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Maybe the marketing and “coolness” is what initially attracts them but once they try it they stay because of the user experience. I had a non-technical friend with an Android phone (full of malware btw). She didn’t care about Apple, never used any of their products nor need it for the “social status” or anything (her friends are all on WhatsApp so no issues with iMessage). I gave her an old iPhone 7 to try out, a cou…

I had an iPhone for work and it basically solidified the fact that Apple products are low quality. I didn't see any benefits at all. Only annoyances. I don't actually believe your story the way you told it. Was her Android a 50 dollar piece of Chinese junk or Samsung? Only way I could believe it.

It was a mid-range Samsung probably a year old. The problem wasn’t really the hardware but the fact that it was full of malware and crap apps, which is what you’d expect with a non-technical user. iOS mostly avoids that problem thanks to sandboxing.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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There's a lot of people who use WhatsApp even in the US. Perhaps not as many as iMessage, but it's still a household name.

Do they use them to talk to people in the US who have no connection to countries where it is the main messaging app?

In some cases?

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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Hi, I have an iPhone and part of the reason I bought it for those reasons. I also happen to care a bit about privacy and security :)

Red flag here. You should take a marketing class.

Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean?

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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Two of my main gripes with iMessage is the fact that if you scroll back up to read the past it becomes progressively slower and slower to scroll and each time the lag to get a new “page” of history takes longer. The other gripe is search being almost completely useless. Search for say “apples” and it just lists the entire conversation instead of relevant messages containing apples. And then you are left scrolling up…

They've actually fixed that second part: search now shows individual messages mentioning the search term (even if there are multiple in the same thread).

yeah they fixed that on ios but imessage on mac os is not a great experience. just about as bare bones and janky as a messaging app can be. don't get me wrong... i like imessage as a utility but the app is rough.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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For anyone who is interested in making an iMessage proxy and has time to spend: There is a legitimate way to interact with the iMessage system with a standard protocol. It requires you to have a host iPhone (no jailbreaking needed). What you need to have is a Bluetooth adapter with MAP (Message Access Profile) support. Your iPhone will treat all messages from the MAP protocol as if they are from the Messages app. Thi…

Can you _send_ messages this way though? I wonder why Smartwatches don't make use of it. I can't send iMessages from my Pebble, only read them.

Yes - you’ll need:

- The latest iOS

- A module that supports sending.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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Because Apple has signalled an intent to become more service oriented instead of device oriented. Because theres a limit to how many physical devices they can sell and would like to keep growing after they hit that limit. Its why Apple Music works on Android and has a Javascript SDK

Sure, Apple could sell FaceTime as a stand-alone paid service but with so many free video chat tools I’m not sure they’d have many takers.

As services grows to become a larger portion of Apple’s revenue, extending it to other platforms is an interesting idea. They already make Apple Music available as a paid service on Android. I could see an Apple TV+ app being developed as well. They could bundle those together with FaceTime and iMessage for a single monthly fee.

It may not have too many takers (I’m willing to bet that most people currently using Apple Music on Android devices are iPhone users with Android tablets), but it would help families or groups of friends who have that one person on Android, and those folks would bear a visible monetary cost that they could partially recoup by switching.

Remember how surprising it was to everyone when Apple announced a windows version of iTunes in 2003. Jobs resisted the idea, and then publicly acquiesced, standing in front of a slide that said “Hell froze Over”. Aside from the additional iPod and iTMS revenue, the halo effect of widespread iPod exposure likely sold a lot more macs than platform exclusivity would have.

Re: iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see light of day (2018)

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Those are all part of iMessage.

Thank you for making my point. iMessage is not texting. I'm responding to this. "Why would you download an app for the basic functionality of a phone? Texting is an integral part of phones and I haven't met a person in the US without unlimited texting in years."

> Thank you for making my point. iMessage is not texting. I'm responding to this.

To your average iOS user they are one and the same, which is why US iPhone users don't generally download secondary chatting apps unless they have to.

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